I completely agree, as you will know if you read my review of the picture. I love all of Hughes's 80's hits, but this one does it for me.
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i really dig some kind of wonderful as well. i also enjoyed the great outdoors and the breakfast club, for the awesome and hilarious one liners. Posts: 4807 | Registered: Oct 2002 | Site Updates: 39
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why? - it was the first one I saw from john hughes and the one I know every line and the one I think it has the best cast and the one who always makes me cry.
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SKOW was really good, but it always felt less natural to me than PIP. It was after all, essentially a remake. I feel a little sad when I watch it too, because it was the last of the great John Hughes teen films (I like Career Opportunities but...).
"She thinks you're ****, and deep down inside you know she's right".
"Andie, he came here alone. Ok you're right, he's not like the others".
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Sorry, guys, this might sound a little off-topic, but I have to ask:
Logan5 wrote:
quote:SKOW was really good, but it always felt less natural to me than PIP. It was after all, essentially a remake.
This has been said before, but I don't get it. OK, one character in both PIP and SKOW has someone who loves them, and they love someone else. Sounds like most teen movies ever made.
But following this through, you are calling similarities between Andie (Molly Ringwald) and Keith (Eric Stolz) that just aren't there. And the same goes for Watts (Masterson) and Duckie (Cryer). Completely different. And don't even get me started on amanda Jones (Thompson), the kid from the normal family that wanted to run with the rich kids, and Blaine (McCarthy) who actually was a rich kid, and was therefore only being who he was. no pretence, no acting.
Sorry, I know I'm rambling, but it riles me a little when people say one is a remake of the other, because it belittles what I actually believe is the better of the two movies. Certainly the more believable of the movies, and if anything, I reckon that SKOW was PIP, only the way that Hughes really wanted to make it.
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Ok Paul, we won't get into whether SKOW is better than PIP. Those trenches would be dug in deep on both sides! They're both really good films no question.
As you probably know, following the confused previews of PIP, John Hughes was forced to write the 'new' ending. This was because he had failed (as a writer) to convince the viewer that: a) Andie should be with Duckie not Blaine, and b) That Blaine wanted (or deserved) someone other than her.
You're partly right that SKOW is PIP as Hughes wanted to make it, PIP was how he wanted to make it, he just didn't convince the audience. He took the same story (deliberately), and altered it sufficiently to make sure that the audience was rooting for Watts and Keith, and wasn't disappointed when Amanda was left alone. Something he didn't succeed in doing on PIP.
You're right about teen plots being very similar (Valley Girl? Or even Romeo and Juliet?). In this case, I think if there had been no reason to change PIP, then we probably wouldn't have had SKOW. So we can thank PIP for SKOW or thank John Hughes for both.
In the end I suppose it doesn't matter which came first, or which one is a personal preference. They're both great films, and they both make almost all of the other teen romances look weak and false by comparison. Posts: 3383 | From: England | Registered: May 2003 | Site Updates: 21
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This is very sensitive subject! I think Ima have to go with The Breakfast Club, only because the story was fairly different from the others. Pure Genius, In my opinion.
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