Here's the short version of what could be a dissertation.
Sixteen Candles.
Better story. Better looking cast Remains consistent throughout (Breakfast Club loses a lot of people in the dramatic half hour) Just as quotable but definitely less culturally referenced that the Breakfast Club. Every girl wants a Jake Ryan. The New Faces Dance scene might be one of the best in teen movie history. And most importantly the music is leaps and bounds better.
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Devo, I would hate to disagree with a moderator cos I know what that can do to my profile and I do love to give Helen a bit of stick from time to time but Breakfast Club by a million miles as well and don't get me wrong I do love both movies but The Breakfast Club to me is really special.
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The Breakfast Club will probably win, but I'm with Devo on this one:
"Sixteen Candles" is such an incredible flick!
Some detailed tidbits to enjoy next time you watch it:
1. I always thought is was cool that 'The Rave-Ups' is written on Samantha Baker's notebook. Molly Ringwald's real life sister had a small bit in the movie (being carried away by a football player at the dance) and was dating one of the band members. The band was also featured in the movie 'Pretty in Pink'.
2. They show a jean jacket in the beginning that had a bunch of cool button pins.. one of them said "Only Visiting This Planet".. do you think Michael Schoeffling is wearing that pin right now?
3. Ever notice the chalkboard in studyhall saying "TOTAL IDIOT" with an arrow pointing at the teacher's head?
4. I never did the "Confidential Notes" in school .. I played something called MASH in grade school. Update: I looked MASH up and that was not it.
5. There are two posters in Samantha's room that I noticed.. one was definitely The Culture Club and I've been told that the one directly above her bed is The Stray Cats. But Mike's room was where it's at: Heather Thomas on the back of the door, Styx on one side of the bed and Sammy Hagar right in the center.
6. Is it bad that when I finally met Joan Cusack .. my opening line was .. "Hey, Water Fountain Girl!"?
7. When Long Duk Dong is sitting at the dinner table .. he is trying to use his forks like chopsticks. Classic!
8. I'm still on the lookout for that 'Our House Filene' dance mix..
9. I think it is hilarious to see the size of the high tech cordless and car phones from the 80's.
10. The drive-in food tray still attached to the car is a nice touch.
11. Totally enjoy the geeks in a trunk scene... wow that's sad just typing it .. so I can imagine reading it too. 'And no.. he's not retarded'. <--- Hughes was edgy and inappropriate in his writing at times.. but it totally worked without seeming to offending folks in the 80's.
12. Oh and I also have a few similar photos in a Rolls Royce with the prom queen from high school.
13. Jim "that's why they call them crushes" Baker was a great Dad.
14. After the scene when Mike says "Classic".. notice how he slams into the door and then plays it off.
15. I had a Poltergeist moment, wait I want to watch Teen Witch for some reason too.
16. Remind me that the next time I listen to Billy Idol to avoid the birth control pills.
17. Headgear or Jake Ryan in a Porsche? Really?
18. The ending is just so awesome!!
I respect "The Breakfast Club" and there are scenes that I really enjoy, but overall it is one of the least fav of my John Hughes film collection. I watch it a couple of times a year and I'm always trying to capture why others love it so. I understand many see it as a cerebal film and maybe my attention to the depth of the conversation is lost because I was never in detention and my home life was rather awesome when I was in high school. I agree that high school had it's social segmented groups and this film did an excellent job of representing and meshing them together.
We've done two Rewind Movie Polls in last ten years and I've been amazed by how many Rewinders have listed "The Breakfast Club" in their top five 80's movies of all-time. More interesting was the fact that a few folks from the UK listed it as #1.
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Top 15 All-Time Favorite 80's Movie Poll Results from 2005:
1. The Goonies (1985) 2. Sixteen Candles (1984) 3. The Breakfast Club (1985) 4. Valley Girl (1983) 5. Back To The Future (1985) 6. Fast Times At Ridgemont High (1982) 7. Pretty In Pink (1986) 8. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) 9. The Lost Boys (1987) 10. Weird Science (1985) 11. Can't Buy Me Love (1987) 12. Some Kind Of Wonderful (1987) 13. The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 14. St. Elmo's Fire (1985) 15. Return Of The Jedi (1983)
Top 20 All-Time Favorite 80's Movie Poll Results from 2011:
"Sixteen Candles" and "The Breakfast Club" are represented quite well on both lists.
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I love em' both as well, however, Breakfast Club for me too. Besides...on the IMDB rating....The Breakfast Club wins by 0.9 %....I mean really....what more do we need?! And like I said before...Jake Ryan is way over rated...he's as short as Ryan Seacrest...there may even be carnival rides he couldn't go on because of height restrictions......Judd Nelson....tall....real tall.....am I right here girls....and by girls I mean.....Devo and Valley.....oh no he didn't.......BURN!!!
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I prefer Sixteen Candles, because it's a fun, lighthearted, well-directed comedy. The drama in Breakfast Club doesn't do it for me.
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Kev .. uh .. was that a Long Duk Dong ramble where you thought I was your 'sexy girlfriend' again? ha.. 'No way Jose!!'
btw, your precious imdb lists Michael Schoeffling at 6' tall compared to Judd Nelson at 5'10" . Did I miss something while you were giggling on the lawn? Posts: 7845 | From: Smiling and glancing in awe in the back of a limo | Registered: Mar 2003 | Site Updates: 22
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Agree with DEVO and Valley completely...Breakfast Club is good, don't get me wrong, but as a huge fan of 80's movies, there is just more to love in 16 Candles. Breakfast Club has some AMAZING dialogue but it also has some pretty cringe-worthy moments too(the group complaining about their parents, Andrew breaking the glass, the "makeover," etc....).
I would much rather watch Sam and Farmer Ted having their heart to heart in the shop room during the dance than the group in the Breakfast Club all complaining about the 'politics' of high school and how bad their home lives are.
Like I said...I do like Breakfast Club. But as I get older I find that the scenes with the adults (Carl the janitor and the Principal) are way funnier than the stuff with the kids.
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I had also watched The Breakfast Club today and my view still stands. It's a great movie, no doubt, but the fact of the matter is that most people are blinded by the amazing script.
That says it all.
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Valley....you really can't trust the numbers on the IMDB...well...cept for the viewers rain..Jake 6 ft tall....no way!
Veronica....spme good points about the crappy moments....may even have swayed my opinion a bit!
I think the seller for me was that I don't think I had seen Sixteen Candles as a youngster....but I did see the Breakfast Club...so maybe it's just more nostalgic for me!
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quote:Originally posted by Devolution: Devolution here,
Here's the short version of what could be a dissertation.
Sixteen Candles.
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First of all, I love this thread! Additionally, I love the handwritten list that Ronnie posted & also the handwritten Breakfast Club essay! Nice touch guys!! I fear handwriting is going to become obsolete like cd's...but that's another topic...
Ummm, yeah...I have to go w Devo & pick Sixteen Candles. It's tied w Fast Times as my favorite movie of all time...and the first reason being is the repeatability factor. It amazes me that eventhough I've seen this movie a million times, I never get sick of it!
I love everything about Sixteen Candles...the cast is perfect, the soundtrack is phenom & the locations are dreamlike to me! I wanted my room to look just like Sam's...I wanted to, wait what am I saying, I still want to go to a party at a house that looks like Jake Ryan's & I'd give anything to get my dance on to The Specials at the New Faces dance!
Don't get me wrong, I have a place in my heart for The Breakfast Club...it is classic...but I can't just put it on at any given moment...have to be in the right mindset...whereas, no matter what kind of day I'm having, Sixteen Candles always works...always makes me smile...always leaves me with the same great feeling I've had since the first time I watched it!
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One more vote for The Breakfast Club from me.
The two movies are very different, and maybe comparing them to each other isn't fair on either one.....
EDIT: been thinking, and a better comparison would be Pretty In Pink vs Sixteen Candles. At least these two have more in common with each other thematically.
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I will always go with Sixteen Candles. Every scene has a laugh and I love the idea.... the younger, not so popular girl gets the dream guy...pure, romantic comedy. Lots of little silly scenarios happening within the main plot. It's a fun movie with terrific music throughout.
For the longest time, I couldn't watch Breakfast Club. I thought I was over it and not as interested. But I now feel like I appreciate it a lot for what it is. Very well written and it definitely does make you feel uncomfortable at times, but it manages to make you laugh, mainly because the characters were done so well and the funny lines come in at the right time. Great ending,..love the essay that Brian writes too!
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breakfast club.... just answer the question claire, answer the question
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My vote goes to The Breakfast Club as well.. BUT there is something to say about that.
In my teens and twenties i thought i'd never grow too old for that movie.. however, now in my mid-thirties, i have to admit that my opinion has changed a bit. The Breakfast Club doesn't seem to have the same impact as it once did. Where i once could identify so much with each of the kids (or young adults), i now seem to have grown more sympathy for mr. Vernon. Apparently my point of view has shifted over the years, without myself really realising it when it happened.. damn
Still, for nostalgic reasons and for remembering what the movie once meant to me, i'd go with The Breakfast Club !
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