Sad news, there is a discernable difference between people with serious psychological issues (like this poor woman) and bad singers who don’t know they suck; the latter deserve ridicule, the former don’t for obvious reasons. In some way, these programmes are the modern day equivalent of medieval freak shows; where hopeful, often hapless, peasants line up in their thousands to be mocked by multi-millionaires.
I only used to watch ‘Idol’ for Simon Cowell’s one-liners and putdowns, but in about 10-15 years the world will look back and wonder; what kind of degenerate society used to exalt such programming (i.e. reality TV in general) to the levels of popularity its achieved?
Has anyone here seen ‘Good Night & Good Luck’? Ed Murrow’s closing speech in that movie pretty much sums up my views on TV.
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Well presented Kash. It seems modern TV is quickly becoming the video form of the likes of the National Enquirer. TMZ is a prime example. Some of these programs, magazines, and paparazzi are literally ruining people's lives....and society is so eager to watch? Has modern society become a majority of insecure people who need to watch the ridicule of others...so their own lives don't look so bad? This is merely a form of bullying, with the targets consistently crying for help, often not taken seriously enough until someone is serioulsy hurt or ends up dead. The man who was ridiculed on the "Sally Jessy" talkshow and ended up killing himself was a prime example...and yet it all continues. I'm really hopeful that I don't go to Heaven too soon....rest assured that when I do...it's unlikely I'll see some of these buggers up there. Wait a sec....too deep? Posts: 2148 | From: Nova Scotia, Canada | Registered: Aug 2007 | Site Updates: 0
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Kash-what was that from? That was interesting.
That's exactly what I am talking about, and what Kevdugp73 said.
Do you guys remember when that man killed that other man....because he was made fun of on the Jenny Jones show?? There was a man brought on the show ...he was told someone had a crush on him, he thought it was a woman, and they set him up....but when he got on the show...it was another man who had a crush on him. The one who was put on the spot...was not gay....and he felt like the world thought he was, and he was so devastated by it...that he shot and killed the man who had a crush on him.
It was a horrible story.
I think people forget these things all the time...because it has become so common...but it happens constantly. That's why I have said I hate the news.
My son is sitting at home cause he's so scared of someone coming in to the school and shooting him. They have had bomb threats...and my friend is the school principal-he just had to go turn a kid in for vandelism. It is craziness.
I honestly think that when you find anyone even semi normal out there in the world, you ought to hang on to them like they were made of gold.
I thought about the girl from American Idol...and how Paula Abdul was out at an Award Show that night...and this girl was sitting in a car alone...thinking about ending her life, and then she did it. Her mom reported her missing, and told the police to go looking around Paula Abdul's house...and there that girl was idolizing Paula Abdul, and yet if you look at Paula...her real life is a mess...she's on many prescription medications, and has had eating disorders, and she hasn't had any relationships with men that turned out great...her own life is a mess too. But...people don't see that about celebrities...they think because they are rich and good looking that their lives are to be envied, and they aren't. There are regular people out there that are doing much better than most celebrities are.
It is all messed up.
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Even after Owen Wilson's attempt at taking his own life, the paparazzi haven't backed of celebrities. I'm so glad I'm not famous - but I wouldn't mind the rich part!
There was a very popular actor here, Mark Preistley, who killed himself a couple of months ago, he starred in "All Saints", one of the top TV dramas and his character was in the middle of a major story line. Anyway, he booked into a hotel and jumped off the balcony. It turns out he had depression. Just like a good proportion of us regular schmo's!
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quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: I don't follow you around lol where did you get that? I comment on topics I see fit to comment on until the topic gets off of topic like this one already has. The topic was American Idol and low and behold halfway through it turned into a bashing modern music thread starring yourself. I'm going to go ahead and be the better person (as that's obvious see no comments about me, what I did, what I miss,me, me, me, etc...) and end the bickering here.....
I totally agree with you here. Why does every topic get turned into something along the lines of "The 80's were absolutely wonderful, nothing ever went wrong, every movie and actor and singer was talented and beautiful. Anyting past 1989 is no good. The singers suck, the actors are ugly and actresses are tramps." Oh, and as far as those psychos who try out for American Idol, and have no talent and know it- they are only there for one thing- attention. They have narcissistic personalities, which means no matter what, they can only think of themselves. Most actors behave this way, but when you see them on camera or being interviewed by one of those tabloid tv shows, they put on a good act at behaving like us normal people.
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It is funny...but I think I post more than anyone else does...on 00's movies...and I post about things going on in today's time period, more than anyone else does-I post more than anyone else about the 70s stuff-I would love to talk about 70s movies and prior...but it's me and Sam over there....so I am not sure where anyone thinks that everything that is said on here...is only about the 80s. If it is in an 80s topic...then that's what this messageboard is about.
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I think the point trying to be made (without starting an argument) is the fact that almost everything being posted modern involves alot of negativity as comparing it to times past as if nothing bad happened or nothing bad was released (movies, music, games)in the past. It's the same thing we say everytime.......
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quote:Originally posted by ISIS: It is funny...but I think I post more than anyone else does...on 00's movies...and I post about things going on in today's time period, more than anyone else does-I post more than anyone else about the 70s stuff-I would love to talk about 70s movies and prior...but it's me and Sam over there....so I am not sure where anyone thinks that everything that is said on here...is only about the 80s. If it is in an 80s topic...then that's what this messageboard is about.
If you're saying I don't post anywhere but the 00's you are wrong. I have commented on the 70's messageboard, but got no replies. I post on all of the messageboards. I haven't posted a whole lot lately on the 80's boards because I haven't had a lot of time to watch any 80's movies. However, I do have three that I bought a few weeks ago to watch, probably next week relaxing at home over Thanksgiving. And I don't think any of them has been reviewed, so if it isokay with paul, I would like to possibly review at least one of the movies.
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Isis, that's from 'Good Night & Good Luck' its one of my favourite films from the last 5 years, directed by and co-starring George Clooney, the main chracater is boradcast journalsit Ed Murrow played by David Strathairn. Its based on the McCarthy witch hunts in the 1950s.
Welcome to 'The Rewind' Pittsburghgirl.
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Motley-if there is something positive on Tv today...or in music...or at the movies...I honestly wish someone would bring it up. You know what I watched last night...besides the documentary on Polygamy. I watched a documentary on obesity. About how many people in our country weigh 500lbs and more, and I saw a woman who died...after gastric by pass surgery because of a heart attack...she had weighed almost 950lbs. Then I watched them cut another man who weighed over 1,000 lbs..out of his house.
It was awful. Stuff like that did not happen 20-30 years ago. We have a horrendous epidemic of obesity going on in our country. 1 in 3 people is over weight. People didn't use to be over weight because they had to work their butts off, there was no fast food, and people couldn't get free money to sit at home. When I see a show like that...I think where do these people get the money to eat like that....when they talk about how much food they eat...I can't even believe it.
I started thinking about that ...and then the polygamy thing, and I was working with my son today on his health...and his health lesson was all about how to prevent suicide, to not self injury yourself, and how to prevent becoming a victim of violence, how to keep from being sexually molested. And, I think all the time...where is this positive influence that I am suppose to be so grateful for living in the now?
Divorce is everywhere. Drugs are everywhere. Sex is everywhere- and there's nothing being geared towards kids that even shows sex as a loving thing between 2 people...they have made it this down and dirty and nasty "deed" that people do.
Last weekend, I was up early...because I had guests here..I was flipping through the TV, at 6am...and MTV's Sweet Sixteen was on...I wanted to smack those parents upside the head, for being so stupid...their daughter was a spoiled rotten brat. It was awful, I watched it for 10 minutes, and was sickened by all the kids there. I was sickened by the way that 16 year old girl was behaving and how she looked. I turned the channel to the Hallmark channel, and an episode of Little House on the Prairie was on, it was the episode where Albert comes in to the picture, and Laura has to show his cow at the fair for him, and she says that he was her brother....I wanted to bawl over that. I just don't see stuff like that happening today.
I keep asking parents I know...what are they getting their kids for Christmas...they get them cell phones. Kids are so anti social as it is, what happened to toys and playing?
I try harder than anybody I know...to plan things for my family to do, that are positive. I constantly work at my relationships with my friends...I can never understand people that say they are too busy for stuff. People that come to my house...ask me all the time...how do I have time to do everything...all the stuff I do in my home...to do my artwork, to spend time with my kid, to do the Bed N Breakfast...I think...what are other people doing all day long. I do alot of stuff...but I still have free time...and I work at life...and making mine exactly the way I want it to be. You will never hear me ever complain about my life. Yeah...my mom might have been sick, but that's just stuff that happens. I never sit around focused on negative things that are personal. So...I am never trying to live in the 80s as if I hate my life now....The only reason I compare stuff with the 80s...is because of how different it really is. And if anyone was in the 80s, and a teenager...then they know what I mean...because younger people...can hear about it...but they don't know anything different. That's the only thing that makes me not go insane over my kid's childhood...is he doesn't know what he has missed out on. Like playing outside with groups of kids at night, and sleeping out in the yard, and all that stuff. It is so different.
I see TV and Music and Movies that are out now...to be so far removed from what it use to be.
But...if there is something going on out there in the world today...that people want to share...that they find to be a positive influence on them...I say...bring it on...I want to hear it.
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People have always been obese, done drugs, and divorced. There's plenty of positive things on television. The key is the news which daily brings the most negative messages to the masses. I think it's up to the individual to find positivity in the world because something that's positive to one person may be negative to another. I consider it positive to live in a country where we have our freedoms, my good health, and a loving family. If you have to have someone tell you something positive going on in modern times, then maybe you aren't looking hard enough. Gas prics are going down as of right now so that's positive. You live in a democracy that's positive. To some, Tony Romo's return to the NFL might be positive lol. Pettyfans Bears lost yesterday so thats negative for her but hey theres always next week plus Robbie Gould did get them on the board. Maybe she has a piece of **** for a washing machine but she can go buy another that's positive . Jimmy Johnson won the NASCAR championship (not positive to me but maybe to someone else). Sams team may be having a good hockey season hey that's positive. I'm going to see Metallica in 6 days that's positive. I'm thankful for my large circle of friends in real life and on here that's positive. I'm thankful I'm living a good, meaningful life where I help others that's positive. It's up to the person to find his/her positivity in life. Alot of it is attitude....
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Pittsburgh Penguins are currently in 4th place in the Eastern Confernence, that sounds pretty positive for me! And they will definitely pull themselves back up to 1st or 2nd, they've been playing so well. That's a positive for me. Maybe i should have put this in the hockey thread. And I am feeling better after being sick for 4 days, talk about ruining my weekend. But I'm going out tomorrow with my mother-in-law who is in good health, as is the rest of my family. Whoo, hoo! Then I'm going Christmas shopping on Wed. with one friend to a close-by small town that has all kinds of nice shops; then this weekend I have a friend coming from out of town to visit. We're going shopping and going out to eat, which I rarely do. So that will be a treat, not cooking. I just pray that wherever we go, we get decent service. The last few times I've gone out to eat, we've had total rejects for our servers.
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Oh...if I list the stuff in my own life that are positive...I'd go on all night. My own life...is no reflection on what I see going on with other people...I don't do drugs-I have never smoked 1 cigarette in my life, I have had about 5 alcoholic drinks in my life...I do tons of things that are positive. It's the stuff on TV, and on the radio...my mom says it all the time...she says...where is there any music for her...where do you hear songs today..that people are singing "love" songs. When do you hear a person sing about that?
This past weekend I had a wedding couple here...they told me they wanted to play their favorite song at their reception...which I never heard it ever...they said it was called "Crazy B*TCH"...they said because of the lyrics the DJ would not play it...because of kids being there and older people. I thought...GOOD. I mean, if people like that kind of stuff...whatever...but just the title alone sounds horrendous. I can't imagine singing along to a song called that.
People on here are probably going to say...I love that song...that's my favorite song...but that's just 1 example of what I mean.
I get excited over little things all the time...I had an 85 year old lady bring a pumpkin to my pumpkin carving contest, she never carved a pumpkin in her whole life, she has leukemia...and she loved doing that. I hugged her and so did my husband and we told her how glad we were that she took the time to do that. My friend...who is 92 years old came to the Halloween party...with his 2 daughters...they made an awesome pumpkin-they won 2nd prize-which I gave them $50-they loved that, and they were all dressed in costumes...I felt so good, because I know they don't have many Halloweens left with their Dad. I just love him, he's like a grandpa to me. His daughters both live really far away-in other states...so he's here alot by himself, so I always invite him here with us for Holidays...and his daughters both grabbed me and hugged me, and said...you don't know how grateful we are that Dad has you and your family, and that you look after him. It made me cry. Because when your 92 years old...your days are numbered, and even though you had a great life...he's still someone's Dad and they are going to be sad when he dies, but at least I feel like I did something that they will always remember that fun thing they did with him when they came for Halloween.
But....I am not ever talking about my own life.
I see people EVERY day that are just miserable. Sometimes it doesn't matter if your the most positive person on the planet- being around miserable people will suck the life right out of you.
I have gone in to stores, and people are so mean...and I still am polite to them...but I get sick of it.
When I think about the 80s...yes there was negative stuff happening then too...lots of it...I never said it was perfect...but in general the things that were bad...were not in my face all the time...at least it didn't feel like that.
My mom and I reminisce all the time about stuff.
She always asks me if I could go back in time what would I do all over again, and I always just think about...just being with my family again...in the house I grew up in, with my dog, and my old bedroom. Just to be a kid again, and stand on the swings at the school and play on the playground and walk to my friends on a Friday night with my sleeping bag, and walk downtown in my hometown when it was all decorated for Christmas and the store fronts were all really pretty. I know that things change and time goes on, but I miss my Dad and my brother and my Aunt and my Grandparents...and it doesn't matter how positive I am about my life and my family and friends that I have now...which I am grateful for....I miss those other people.
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Hmmmm. I really don't remember my parents complaining that there aren't any good singers like Nat King Cole or Andy Williams anymore. They have learned to move on from the 50's and 60's and just be content to listen to their old albums. And my father is pretty open minded when it comes to more modern music, but he is just the type of person who gets along with everyone too.
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But what if someone else was offended because the couple wanted a song off the Breakin soundtrack played? Would it be ok then? Some people may find the language offensive, but offense to others may be something else within a song. It's their wedding I say go all out play whatever you want. If they have true friends, I doubt a measly song choice would keep peeps away from the wedding. You must live in an awfully negative part of PA. People I know who live in PA never tell me of always meeting negative people. The last album my dad bought was Death Magnetic. He is actually going with us (he's 55) to the Metallica show Sunday which is kick azz to me. He took me to see KISS when I was a kid. We've gone to see Metallica everytime they've came around since the mid 90s. My mom likes alot of older stuff but she tends to lean towards country/popular/rock/tear jearking music (i.e., Brooks and Dunn, Big and Rich, ugh lol). The last cd she bought was David Cook (bigger ugh) by David Cook......
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Motley my friend I am so offended...David Cook "ugh?" Never!! ROFLMAO!!! I think it's so cool your dad bought Death Magnetic. My mom bought a Kellie Pickler CD, and my daddy loves Jewel (ugh, ugh, ugh)...so older parents do go out and buy music. And there's Sirius/XM channel 4 (forties' music) for those who want it...
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Kellie Pickler is from NC lol gaaaaaaaaaawh leeeeee and so is that Daughtry dude and that Bucky guy. You can say Daughtry around these parts and half the women in the room faint. I meant no harm by the David Cook comment as to each his/her own haha.....
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Motley....I must admit that I like Daughtry. THE MUSIC that is! LOL
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My dad probably hasn't bought anything new in 20 years. So what? That doesn't mean that he's moping around the house, complaining about those darn kids down the block pestering him playing hockey on our street, or how the kids today are nothing like they were 50 years ago, etc. etc. He did go see my friend's band play a few years ago- they play mostly classic rock, but also throw in a newer tune when they have time to learn one. Like I said, he's content to listen to his old albums,cds, cassettes and 8-tracks. Oh, I lied,ha,ha- he did buy a cd of some Irish woman's music, but I can't think of her name at the moment.
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quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: Kellie Pickler is from NC lol gaaaaaaaaaawh leeeeee and so is that Daughtry dude and that Bucky guy. You can say Daughtry around these parts and half the women in the room faint. I meant no harm by the David Cook comment as to each his/her own haha.....
Yeah, I know ya didn't. I think I like Daughtry and my future hubby David Cook because they're not so "poppy." Lord I hate pop music...that Rhianna chick, Britney, Christina, ugh...I shudder.
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We all listen to music now...but none of it is new stuff. I play music every day. It's not that I don't listen to music....I haven't bought a current CD in over 10 years...of anyone new. I still buy music though.
If there was a kid playing hockey in the streets of where we live...I'd be excited to see it...kids don't do ANYTHING around here...it is pathetic...and I am not kidding. I do live in a rural area...and it has taken me 6 years to get a good group of friends, and they are all from out of town, the local people do not want "outsiders", it is very "Children of the Corn"ish.
Motley-if a song has the word B*TCH in it...and there's little children there, and they played that...that would be rude. You got it backwards.
My friend saw Chris Daughtry in concert this past summer, she was in the front row, she was talking to the crew guys, and they said Chris Daughtry was a complete jerk...he said at all the concerts they put out food for all the artists, and most of them let the crew people eat with them...he said Chris Daughtry insisted him and his band eat before anyone else, he said he'd let them know when they could eat, by the time they got around to letting the crew it...everything was cold. My friend said the concert started an hour late...and there was no reason for it...they just didn't feel like getting out there any faster. My friend thought...what a jerk...didn't Chris Daughtry work at Auto Zone as a Service Manager before he went on American Idol? So, what makes him think he's so fantastic that he can be rude and mean to people.
I absolutely hate new music....on Dancing with the Stars tonight, that girl sang the "Bleeding Love" song, that song is awful...the lyrics are gross, and it is so over played, and that's because there is nothing else.
Name the Top 10 songs of this week?
I don't even know who Rhianna is.
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I've heard on many occasions that Daughtry is a pompous a$$. Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to him.
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But if it's someone else's wedding and their folks are footing the bill whose to decide? You mention Daughtry as being rude as if that's only a modern thing and it's odd that you just now mention him (a modern artist) as being rude since his name was called out. I've never been to a show where the artist is on time hell I'd think something was wrong if they did come on time. How did your friend know there wan't any reason for it? Could have been technical issues, instrument, tune up, setting, etc......... Lots of assumptions. Maybe if Daughtry had been big in the 80s he wouldn't be rude. Music runs in circles chances are your folks' generation said the same about the music you listened to. The only other options are changing the channel or station.........
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I couldn't even begin to count the number of times my parents told me to turn down "That Racket" while I was listening to my Kiss and AC/DC records. They did like when I played Journey though.
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I think it's so cool your dad bought Death Magnetic. My mom bought a Kellie Pickler CD, and my daddy loves Jewel (ugh, ugh, ugh)...so older parents do go out and buy music. And there's Sirius/XM channel 4 (forties' music) for those who want it...
