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Any thoughts about the Large hadron collider experiment starting up today?I have been monitoring this project closely for a year now.Today they test started the thing.When they fire it up at maximum sometime during the next 6 months,there is a lot of doomsdays theories around.Talk about mini black holes created,expanding and consuming the planet and stuff like that.Personally i hope we all get transfered back to the 80`s [Wink]

I`ll stick to that theory i think

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Yeah I heard about that. That guy is being described as a mad scientist. I mean if this really could mean doomsday for us, why would he do it?

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I looked at a documentary last night,and one of the scientist on LHC replied on the whole black hole doomsday scenario and i quote:"It is ALMOST certain this wont happen"

BTW People have sat down, wondering who really built the Atomic Bomb Traditional Scientists, or Mad ones! One of the main points on this was the discussion held by the group when they tested the first one.
Bets were laid amongst them if the bomb would ignite the atmosphere or not..Even Einstein had second thoughts about it for some time.

Nice to know we are in good hands [Karate Kid]

The more tragic news i heard tonight is the fact that a 16 year old Indian girl committed suicide in fear of this experiment [Frown]

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Bets were laid amongst them if the bomb would ignite the atmosphere or not..

That's a real good bet for the ones saying it won't. If it does, we all die and the losers of the bet don't have to pay. [Wink]

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As i said we are clearly in Capable hands [Big Grin]

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I have no idea what you guys are talking about...it sounds as if I am better off not knowing. None of it sounded any good.

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You ARE better off not knowing. I just heard about it eysterday and havent been able to stop thinking about it since.

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I looked a little bit up about it...it looked like it was going to be the worldest largest computer...that is able to store a ton of data...but I have no idea when people start talking about theroies as to undiscovered protons and stuff like that...that is way too complex for me-I can't grasp it.

Some day it will happen that we will destroy the Earth. They say the sun has a life span, and we have to have it to survive.

I was hiking in the woods last weekend, thinking about how not long ago electricity hadn't even been invented, and people were wandering around at night with no lights...if you think about how fast we have progressed in the past 100 years...that's scary.

Because I was thinking about how not much has changed since I was born in 1968 to now- just technology....but cars had been invented, TVs were here-people were flying in airplanes...all that kind of stuff just got tweaked to be better...

But look at a span of 40 years from 1928-1968, and that will blow your mind.

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This is not a computer [Wink]

This is the world’s most powerful particle accelerator.(there have been smaller versions) High-energy protons in two counter-rotating beams will when speeded up to 99.99% of light be smashed together [Karate Kid]

In a search for signatures of the smallest particles, dark matter and the origins of mass who existed during the big bang.No one really know for sure what to discover from this.There are also theories(nuts)who claims this would be a step further to time travel [Wink]

To put it easy,This is a very big bad Flux Capacitor capacitor able to produce many many small big bangs and maybe tiny black holes as a side effect [Eek!]

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I've been following this a bit myself. Anything to do with space, physics, the universe, time travel, etc. has always fascinated me. That's why I'm a sci-fi nut. It really is the only way to advance out technology....you have to take chances. I just hope they know what they are doing. I'll be the first to sign up for a ride in that time machine too! [Big Grin]

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I`m with you 80'sRocked [Wink]

i`m also like that myself.Both with my telescope for observing,and imaging.I also enjoy tv shows about the subject.

The big one at the moment is Battlestar Galactica.I ordered all seasons from the UK,as i live on the edge of the world,and it just takes forever to get things here.I`m just waiting for the last season now.

Cheers,and as Astronomers put it:

Clear skies! [Cool]

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My son was talking about this too....I don't under stand what a black hole even is, or how you'd end up in one-if you did...you'd be dead.

I know they are out in space..but what is it?

If it isn't a computer than how does it keep track of everything...all the data or whatever?

If it is any kind of machine...then it is a computer of some sort...right? I am not talking about a personal computer...I am talking about a gigantic thing.

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They use computers to crunch the data of course.3000 of them actually [Cool]

When these small protons collide at high enough velocity,they get smashed into even tinier stuff to study.

At school we learned about atoms,electrons,neutrons,protons and so on to be the smallest things around.Well it turns out this is not the fact.At the few milliseconds into the big bang there were other exotic particles out there.This is among other things they try to recreate.

Also looking at the universes Gravity/behavior,we now know there are more stuff out there than we can see.Dark matter.Some hope to get some data on that as well.

The machine itself is a giant tunnel ring on 27km,were they speed up those protons.Think of it like a racetrack with a final head to head collision in the end,and then observing all the bits and pieces flying of in all direction.

I would not however have a black hole in my back garden.These are objects with gravitational field so powerful that nothing, not even electromagnetic radiation,or visible light can escape its pull after having fallen past its event horizon.(point of no return)Our milky way galaxy have at least one in the center.And it`s pretty smart to keep away from it i think [Wink]

The doomsdays scenarios around the LHC are in theory that it can create miniature black holes that grows,and sucking in everything we know.

But if created this would be an incredibly tiny baby black hole, much smaller than an atom. What's more, it should evaporate immediately. Black holes give off radiation. And such a black hole would be so incredibly small and hot, it would radiate itself away in less than 0,00000000000000000000000001 seconds! That’s why physicists feel pretty confident about working with the LHC.

I just hope they have their math worked out right [Wink]

Don`t quote me on this post though.This is just a hobby of mine studying the universe and a bit physics.Also my english is not the best on this kind of topics.But it should at least be pretty close i hope.

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You people act like you've never heard of the flux capacitor. Come on guys, it's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need about ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

Actually, thanks for the update that I only have 48 hours to watch all my fav 80's movies one last time.

Interesting and scary stuff.

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Actually, thanks for the update that I only have 48 hours to watch all my fav 80's movies one last time.

Well these particle accelerators have been around for a long time.The LHC is just the biggest so far.I think you can safely enjoy your 80`s movies for some time.But when those technician decides to turn the nob all the way up,and especially if that setting is marked:"ARE YOU CERTAIN?"Then we might have a problem [Wink]

Well it`s up and running now,i`m more interested if it will be announced publicly when they intend to give it all what they got.I don`t think they will do that [Roll Eyes]

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I saw a picture of it, and I thought it looked like a spirograph.

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Don`t quote me on this post though.This is just a hobby of mine studying the universe and a bit physics.Also my english is not the best on this kind of topics.But it should at least be pretty close i hope.

You summed it up quite nice Bandit. [Smile]