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This year is going to be a historial year for politics. We are going to either have the first African American president, or the first Woman Vice President. I am really scared this year...about the choices we have.
I don't like either one of them at all.
I am not even a political person, I hate politics.
But, I started reading some about Sarah Palin, who's running for VP...everyone is saying about her having 5 kids, and that if you say she can't juggle 5 kids and a job, then your sexist.
I think anyone having 5 kids...has enough with just that to deal with...on top of ...that one has down's syndrome-that could take up all your time right there- and her daughter is 17 and pregnant- and MCCain says that's a wonderful thing...and a blessing...and all that...and I think...great...what's with people's brains.
All they talk about are what the women in politics are wearing, and who they have slept with...while we have a war going on. I am just so sick of people not worrying about the important stuff, while people are dying.
I think we are doomed...no matter which way we go ...and it is scary...because of the way the world is anymore...we are so focused on all the wrong issues.
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i don't like palin because she's a religous nut, er, i mean, an evangelical. i think having a president who talks to jesus in the white house for the past 8 yrs is enough.
and it's a scary thought to think she's one mccain grabber away from being in charge.
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Palin has a capable husband who can take care of their family. No one ever says that male canidates won't have enough time for their children so why should Palin be any different?
As for her being a "religous nut", as xchazx put it, Obama is big into his church as well.
I just want someone who will stop taxing the heck outta us so we can get ahead in life. Most Americans are in debt and with jobs being cut left and right who knows what will happen.
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I never voted in my life and never will. At least nobody can say to me, "hey, you voted for this a**hole", which most of them are.
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Ali-the thing with the kids....is...most people who have been president...haven't had kids that young. Her child with down's syndrome is an infant. And....I think it goes both ways...I think with Obama...how's he going to spend time with his kids either.
I think we have too many rednecks in our country...that I fear an assassination attempt on different people...and McCain is getting pretty old...we could end up with a woman president...and I never heard of these 2 running mates for VP...before this...it's like they plucked them out of nowhere.
I personally have never felt that you can do both...that you can raise your kids right and work a full time job. I feel that parenting is a full time job....Palin is against abortion-even in cases of rape and incest...and McCain says that kids shouldn't get sex ed. from school it should come from the parents...well if that's the case...where was Palin or her husband at when she needed to be discussing that with her kid. Becoming a parent when your still a child...to me is not something anybody should say is a blessing...that all is just crazy.
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80srocked-I am voting...I am independant...but I vote to keep the lesser of the 2 evils out...because it is going to be a really close election this year.
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Her kid is 17, in a few more months no one would care cuz she'd be 18. You can discuss all you want with your kids, they are gonna do what they want. At some point you have to put responsibility on the children for making their own choices.
I mean her other older daughter isnt pregnant and as far as we know her son who is on his way to Iraq didnt get anyone pregnant so she must have been an alright mom.
As for the "redneck" comment I dont know what you meant by it, but up here in northern Wi, we kind of rednecks, we like our racing , football, hunting and all. I'm not trying to assassinate anyone nor is any of my friends and family.
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quote:Originally posted by 80'sRocked: I never voted in my life and never will. At least nobody can say to me, "hey, you voted for this a**hole", which most of them are.
But then on the other hand if things go bad for you you have no right to complain either.
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Even though I'm not a McCain/Palin supporter, as someone said, you can't be there 24/7 with your kids as they get older. Eventually they have to choose and accept responsibility for their own mistakes and problems. The redneck comment was totally off balance as it seems to stereotype and only makes you look clueless in generalizing and insults those us of from the South. Not all of us marry our cousins, consider chewing tobacco to be a before dinner appetizer, or drop out of school. And get this (you may wanna sit down out of suprise) I like to hunt, fish, love NASCAR, love beer AND I'm educated! Gahhh lee! That being said, next to the Bush/Kerry choice of 2000, this has to be the worst choice of candidates in my history of voting. Clinton may have fooled around, but gas prices were not out of the roof and people had jobs. And before anyone mentions anything about Clinton and NAFTA, it was Bush Sr. who actually got the ball rolling with it even though Clinton signed it. I'll probably vote Obama simply because McCain is a warmonger like Bush plus too much religion in government can be a bad thing. Look what someone whose been in the office for 8 years who claims to have high religious morals has gotten us in 8 years: nothing. I'd vote Libertarian but the Libertarian candidate doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning. I may run in 2012 anybody wanna be my VP? I also think McCain's choice of Palin for VP is a feeble attempt to ooh and aah Hilary Clinton supporters. I hope they aren't gullible enough to fall for it. The Republicans may as well hand the presidency to the Democrats next time if McCain/Palin is the best they've got......
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Well...you guys have a different definition of a redneck than me.
I should have said...racist....as in someone who supports the KKK. There's still alot of them out there...and I don't care if they are from the south , noth, east or west...they still exist.
I know that kids have their own minds, and that girl made her own choices...but...my thing about that...was someone saying that it is a blessing...to be having a child when that girl is a child...and a year or two does make some what of a slight difference...when you are that age. But...my point again about the focus on that...is that we are at war...I don't care about what they are wearing and who they slept with.
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and it's always a good thing when parents force their 17 yr old daughter to marry her high school sweetheart. that always works out.
i guess jesus didn't tell her that her daughter was having unprotected sex. she should bring that up the next time they talk.
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If the fact that we are at war is your focus, then why did you even bring up all that other stuff?
Yes racists are still out there and everywhere and that would have been a better term to use than redneck.
As for the child having a child, the girl is a pretty mature child, it's not like she's 12 or 13. Not that it makes it right. I think they say the child is a blessing because some people believe that all children are blessings no matter how they were concieved. A child is a precious thing, and maybe Bristol should have waited till she was 18, but that doesnt mean that her having a baby now is horrible, there many worse things she could be doing at that age.
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Why does everyone keep geeting on Palin for the religous stuff? I mean Obama is way big into church as well. And what's wrong with that? Our country has lost some morals here. I dont care which religion people follow but I dont think its a bad thing to be spiritual.
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The year or two difference was probably brought up because once she's 18 she's an adult. There's a huge difference in 17 and 18 in that respect. It's like Cheney our current VP/leech saying he's against gay rights yet he has a lesbian daughter. Politicans are smooth talkers so naturally they try to skid past the things that make them skiddish. They talk about change this and change that but we always end up staying the same. While I respect McCain and he being a former prisoner of war, I cringe to think of how much longer this war will go on when you have someone who's a stronger war advocate than Bush himself. I'm all for war when it's needed and I support the troops as I have a couple of cousins serving in Iraq, but really what was the real reason to go to Iraq? To finish the job Bush Sr./daddy didn't...........
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I'm more alarmed that Palin is a NRA member, must be a Republican prerequisite, shoot thy neighbour and all of that stuff. The thing about religion, is just the blatant hypocrisy involved, you want to believe in god and family values, yet you have this willingness to wage war, kill for assets like it's your god-given right? It's about helping your rich oil buddies, the victims of Katrina be damned.
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quote:Originally posted by Ali_with_an_i: Why does everyone keep geeting on Palin for the religous stuff? I mean Obama is way big into church as well. And what's wrong with that? Our country has lost some morals here. I dont care which religion people follow but I dont think its a bad thing to be spiritual.
i don't have a problem with people being religous. every president we've had has been. but she takes it to another level. a bush level. evangelicals believe the bible is the word of god and everything in it is how it happened. i wouldn't doubt that she believes that the earth is 5000 yrs old or that dinosaurs didn't exist because they weren't mentioned in the bible.
there is a difference between being religous and having your every thought dictated by what the bible tells you. and i don't know if i'd want someone like her that close to the presidency.
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I only made 1 statement about her having 5 kids...and that I think she's got her hands full... I don't know how on Earth she will juggle it all- wether she thinks she can or not-I don't even have a clue how it could ever be possible.
I totally feel that there has to be other people out there that have a way better grasp on their personal lives....than any of these people do....
It seems that the focus is always on their personal lives, and that everyone's personal life is a mess.....isn't there anybody out there...that has their act together....not 1 person??? That has a brain in their head...and has focus on what the problems are that need fixed....and can get something accomplished.
That's my whole problem with everything that is going on...it seems that no matter who they are...their lives are in total turmoil.
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Thats true, but I dont know if McCain is more for war than Bush. Unlike Bush he has been in a war and know the horrors it brings. He has said that he hates it. I think Iraq was not such a great idea especially with countries like North Korea and Iran who openly threaten other countries, and most of our resources are in Iraq. I think we need some big changes in our country and I dont know if the dems or the repubs are what we need. i wish we had a strong independent that was somewhere in the middle. There are too many far rights and lefts out there.
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I'd rather have people with a family in office than someone who cannot relate to most of the population because they have no personal life.
Alot of Preseidents and politicians have big families, I think if they are married than the other spouse can step it up. If Palin were a man would anyone feel the same way?
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I do know that Palin is for drilling in Alaska for fuel. I know she did do alot for their economy. My husband follows politics ...way better than me...my son does too...
I just feel like I don't know why we have such bad choices as we do...wasn't there anyone else better out there than either of them.
I personally don't like any of the choices.
I have 1 son....and he's almost 16...if they bring back the draft...I am moving to Canada.
I feel that the United States...gets involved in everyone else's business and forgets about what's happening here.
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Palin tends to make it a point to stress her religion while Obama mentions it when asked. I personally have a problem with electing a 70-something year old McCain to office. I personally have no problem with a woman VP or even a woman President but not a woman who makes it a point to stress her own personal beliefs into a public agenda. It also makes me feel that every decision they will make will be spiritually based and an agenda for the US will be based on religion versus what really needs to be accomplished. There's a huge difference in morals and religion. That's fine if anyone wants to agree with that but I'm not voting for anyone who waits for a vision or uses religion as an excuse to go to war or to make any other important decisions. Believe what you want to believe that's the beauty of living in a free society but don't force beliefs on everyone else and use religion as a tool for manipulation to get your own personal set of objectives accomplished while in office..........
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I absolutely think a woman can do the job as president. Look at what a great world leader Margaret Thatcher was. But, I feel this woman...has way too much going on. I think there could have been a better woman picked...and I do think that anything that applies to women applies to men too.
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The world would be a better place if religion and politics were not mixed. Ane let's be honest while one's own religion is a personal choice, wonder how many politicans actually follow their religion versus simply publically professing it in an effort to gain votes?
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