I know a few people that would say any sequel should never be made, but there a few sequels that have been made that almost destroy my love for the original movie because the sequel is so horrible. Here are few:
"Bay Boys" (1995) with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence was a classic action comedy adventure with the beautiful scenery of Miami as a backdrop. The sequel that came out in 2003 tried to recapture the chemistry of the first movie, but it blew up in our faces instead.
"Caddyshack" (1980) might be the best comedy ever made, but the sequel from 1988 might be the worst. Not really, but it was just not very good compared to the original.
"Speed" (1994) not the most believable movie ever made, but it was a enjoyable movie with Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock, but that sequel on a ship from 1997 seemed like a low budget rip-off.
"Matrix" (1999) a brilliant movie with so much originality from its script to the camera shots during the action scenes, the sequels might have been the most anticipated since the new Star Wars Trilogy. However, the first sequel while visually impressive just took away everything I loved about the first movie. The third movie didn't do much to redeem it for me.
I have enjoyed several sequels throughout the years, but sometimes a bad sequel will diminish my love for the original just a bit. Your thoughts?
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
I agree with what you said about "Bad Boys." I really liked the first one, but I couldn't even get all the way through the sequel. And the "Mission: Impossible" sequel was awful, too. Not that the first one was GREAT, but...
Posted by Chris the CandyFanMan (Member # 3197) on :
Blues Brothers 2000 was a major letdown from the first one. Without Belushi the chemistry just wasn't the same (and actually Aykroyd had written a sequel with Jake about the same time as the original, but Belushi died before this one could be put into production), and the ending was too wide-open.
Posted by Mane1980 (Member # 4240) on :
Dream a Little Dream Speed Caddyshack Mission Impossible Teen Wolf
Posted by Stitch (Member # 2895) on :
Speed 2 and Mission Impossible 2 are probably the worst sequels I've seen. The first films were so goodd, they both had great formulas, it's hard to believe the sequels could go so wrong.
Other bad sequels -
The Hills have Eyes 2 Godfather 3 Nightmare on Elm St 2 Scream 3 I still know what you did last summer Scary Movie 2
Posted by Valley (Member # 1322) on :
Mane1980, you are so right about "Teen Wolf II". Infact, they basically give it to you for free on the "Teen Wolf" DVD and I've never wanted to watch because of my first viewing disappointment years ago.
Chris, Stitch, & pettyfan, you each mentioned a few stinkers for sure.
Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
Goonies II.....well almost. Thank God Richard Donner came to his senses and never made a sequel like he originally planned. Everyone is grown p now so it would not have been the same adventure as before.
I remember the Goonies II video game. My sister and I played it on our Nintendo system all the time. That was "Good enough for me". Posted by Kash (Member # 297) on :
I thought 'Be Cool', the sequel to 'Get Shorty', could've been far better than it was. For starters; Travolta seems to be asleep, Uma Thurman is just doing her usual thing and though Vince Vaughn has some funny lines. you know a movies in trouble when The Rock outshines the likes of Kietel, Travolta and Thurman.
Posted by Valley (Member # 1322) on :
You would think Travolta would have learned to never do another sequel from "Staying Alive".
Posted by The Mouse Avenger (Member # 4406) on :
Almost everybody says the Disney sequels stink out loud. I personally like 'em, but, you know...
Posted by Valley (Member # 1322) on :
Ha, Disney is the direct-to-video champ when it comes to sequels.
Posted by The Mouse Avenger (Member # 4406) on :
Yeah, but you gotta admit, there's a lot worse sequels than Disney...at least everyone says so. ^^;;
Posted by Stitch (Member # 2895) on :
Does "Lion King 1.5" count as a sequel? It's basically the original film just seen from a different perspective.
Posted by The Mouse Avenger (Member # 4406) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stitch: Does "Lion King 1.5" count as a sequel? It's basically the original film just seen from a different perspective.
Funny--I don't see how that makes it bad...
Posted by Smayt Shatner (Member # 1500) on :
Ive never got the whole 1.5 thing...! Theres an X-MEN 1.5 and i just dont get it! Why not just call it a special edition or extended version or directors cut or the search for spock or electric boogaloo. Weird indeed.
Posted by Smayt Shatner (Member # 1500) on :
Oh and just to clarify...i do like X-men. And Search For Spock.Now thats a good sequel. The worse Star Trek sequel is Final Frontier (no.5) and even that has many good points.
Posted by mamamiasweetpeaches (Member # 1715) on :
No one is gonna mention GREASE 2? It's actually got so bad its good appeal, but it has a rep for being everything you dont want in a sequel!
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Mannequin 2
Be Cool (IMO The Rock's and Vince Vaughn's performances saved this movie from being a lot worse than what it was)
Matrix Reloaded
Jaws 4
American Psycho 2
Posted by Brandon777 (Member # 4014) on :
quote:Originally posted by Valley:
"Matrix" (1999) a brilliant movie with so much originality from its script to the camera shots during the action scenes, the sequels might have been the most anticipated since the new Star Wars Trilogy. However, the first sequel while visually impressive just took away everything I loved about the first movie. The third movie didn't do much to redeem it for me.
I love the first Matrix. I thought it was very original and very thought provoking. I took a philosophy class in college and they were talking about these abstract concepts about how reality is really an illusion and everything is processed in the mind, so nothing is real. I had somewhat of a difficult time trying to grasp those concepts because I was more practical. After seeing The Matrix, all of those lectures in philosphy made sense. I thought that movie was ground breaking on so many levels.
Then the sequels came out. They really dropped the ball on the sequels. It went from a ground breaking revelation to your typical sci-fi movie.
[ 24. April 2006, 08:21: Message edited by: Brandon777 ]
Posted by Brandon777 (Member # 4014) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ali_with_an_i: I remember the Goonies II video game. My sister and I played it on our Nintendo system all the time. That was "Good enough for me".
Goonies II on the Nintendo rocked. I use to play that game all of the time. It was one of the best games on Nintendo.
Posted by Spooka Lupa (Member # 2700) on :
Any sequel when there isn't any of the people from the original movie (and it doesn't count if there's only one as the "mentor" of the new characters). Same goes with a movie about the child or children of the original characters, because the kid will either be a pale imitation of the parents or an annoying "rebel."
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
That's one reason it pays to be very careful when renting one of those direct to DVD/VHS movie sequels. Next thing ya know, they have switched all the characters around and added Coolio or Stephen Baldwin as the main characters....
Posted by The Mouse Avenger (Member # 4406) on :
quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: That's one reason it pays to be very careful when renting one of those direct to DVD/VHS movie sequels.
LOL, people are always telling ME that about Disney, & yet lots of people like the Little Mermaid sequel, myself included...sometimes people can be such hypocrites, non?
Posted by Stitch (Member # 2895) on :
I didn't say it was bad. I was just wondering if it counts as a sequel, a remake or a ripoff?
quote:Originally posted by The Mouse Avenger:
quote:Originally posted by Stitch: Does "Lion King 1.5" count as a sequel? It's basically the original film just seen from a different perspective.
Funny--I don't see how that makes it bad...
Posted by Stitch (Member # 2895) on :
quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: That's one reason it pays to be very careful when renting one of those direct to DVD/VHS movie sequels. Next thing ya know, they have switched all the characters around and added Coolio or Stephen Baldwin as the main characters....
Coolio, Stephen Baldwin and Michael Ironside...
Posted by Bionic Bigfoot (Member # 2490) on :
I hated Superman 3 and 4. Turning the franchise into a comedy was the dumbest decision ever! I'm so glad that Brian Singer seems to be getting it back on track and I can't wait to see the new Richard Donner cut of Superman II. I'm a huge Superman fan!
I didn't care for the Matrix sequels. I thought the 1st one was brilliant, original and the coolest thing since grape slurpies, but they should have left it alone.
I thought the 2 Indiana Jones sequels were ok, but they didn't seem to live up to the original. The screaming chick in the second one just got on my nerves too much. The 1st one had such a strong female character in it and then the next one was like he was babysitting Lucille Ball. It just turned me off. The story was ok for me except for her. I also thought that they kept wearing out the schtick of there being a lot of creepy-crawly things in each episode. The snakes in the 1st one was cool, but then the second one had to be the same thing but with bugs and the third had to be the same but with rats...I guess the next one will be the same but with bats?!? Come on people... get on with it and just give us a good story! Raiders Of The Lost Ark happens to be my favorite movie of all time.
Star Wars was fine with the originally trilliogy. George Lucas is an idiot!
Jaws 4 totally sucked.
Rocky 4 & 5 sucked big ones and guess what Stallone, Rocky 6,7 & 8 are gonna suck even bigger... so why waste our time. You would be better off making Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot 2!
Rambo III was a dud.
I agree about the Blues Brothers 2000. It was the same script. They did all the same things with the same people. The 1st one was super-duper cool.
The Oulaw Josey Whales 2. If you haven't seen this straight to video stinker, don't bother. It doesn't even have Clint Eastwood in it and the budget for the entire flick came out of a cracker Jack box. A better title for it would have been "crappedy crap crap."
Cyborg 2. Van Damme wasn't in it. So why bother?
Karate Kid 4. Why wasn't Ralph back in this one? He could have pulled it off. He still doesn't look a day over 13 going on 45. They could have gotten Gary Coleman to do the 4th installment. Anyone but Hillary Skank.
Star Trek 5: The Search For An Audience
There are tons more! I usually try to steer clear of sequels.
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Posted by Brandon777 (Member # 4014) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bionic Bigfoot: Raiders Of The Lost Ark happens to be my favorite movie of all time.
The Oulaw Josey Whales 2. If you haven't seen this straight to video stinker, don't bother. It doesn't even have Clint Eastwood in it and the budget for the entire flick came out of a cracker Jack box. A better title for it would have been "crappedy crap crap."
Raiders of the Lost Ark is the coolest movie ever made.
I never heard of The Outlaw Josey Whales 2. I didn't know there was a sequel. I can imagine that movie being a steaming pile of dung LOL.
Posted by Spooka Lupa (Member # 2700) on :
Teen Wolf Too: I saw this one first (I was little) and it still stunk. Same script, lame characters. Not that the first was a cinematic masterpiece, but yeesh, if you manage to make a sequel to Teen Wolf and folks say, "Gee, that was corny," it's bad.
Gremlins 2. It had some funny parts, but overall the effect didn't go over well with me.
Jurassic Park III. As I watched the "intimidating" feathered raptors and annoyingly unstoppable spinosaurous chase the characters, I kept thinking there was a movie in there somewhere.
Posted by AnyaKay27 (Member # 4675) on :
How about Hannibal....or Aladdin2-Return of Jafar....(MA...I love Disney movies as well, but the 2nd one just wasn't the same w/o Robin Williams)...and all the other ones metioned above. I know the 2 I mentined aren't 80's movies, nor were their originals, but they needed to be mentioned...LOL
Posted by Saint_in_London (Member # 2575) on :
GhostBusters 2 was a total let down, even with all the original cast. my freinds and I all loved the 1st one, and was a great movie to see on the big screen. I'm not surprised bill murray won't make another one but i am surprised others do!!
Posted by eightieschick (Member # 4385) on :
How about Caddyshack II? It was just plain horrible, and un-watchable. I think I watched the first twenty minutes of it and had to shut it off. The old man who was trying to get into the club was just obnoxious, not obnoxious-funny like Rodney! If you watch closely, one of the preppy girls is played by the girl from Wilson-Philips, Chynna Philips.
Posted by Spooka Lupa (Member # 2700) on :
How about REAL Sequels You Wish Were Never Made like...
The Dead Zone 2: Zombie Attack Johnny tries to fight his zombie urges while dealing with visions and the fact that after being dead for five years his ex-ex-fiance has married ANOTHER guy and had ANOTHER kid. Plus he's shot some more.
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory Two: After the Glory Charlie, now an adult, can't handle the stress of trying to run a magical chocolate factory and turns to drink. He meets a cat thief with a heart of gold and learns to love again. References to "Roadhouse."
Grease 3 Just because no.
Posted by Mane1980 (Member # 4240) on :
Splash 2
Posted by Stitch (Member # 2895) on :
I have 4 words...
Son. Of. The. Mask
Enough said.
Possible sequels I'd like to see include -
Mr Holland and Oprah - After his retirement, news of his life reaches Oprah who invites him on her show. They fall in love, and he dedicates his life to writing her the perfect sonata.
How I got into college 2: The Real World - Marlon discovers Jessica is auditioning for The Real World Waco, and follows her through the dragged out audition process.
Posted by My other car's a Paul-sche..... (Member # 1022) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stitch: How I got into college 2: The Real World -
To quote Red Dwarf: how about How I Got Into Art College.... failed all my exams and applied.
Of course, you'll need to leave after around 27 minutes. One look at the timetable should do it. They schedule classes first thing in the afternoon. 2:30pm every day! How can this be possible?
Posted by Chris the CandyFanMan (Member # 3197) on :
The way I usually rationalize bad sequels is that they don't really happen; that it's all a bad dream one of the characters (if any of them make the sequel in question) is having while we look into their minds. Thus for example, with my example of BB2K, when Elwood wakes up, he'll find Jake alive and well, none of the new people he met exist, and once they break back out of jail they'll get back on the road again.
Posted by joker (Member # 3840) on :
karate kid 2 karate kid 3 and espectly the next karate kid with out a dout the most stupest of all four films the movie producers should have stuck with the orignal plan and just used the opening sceans in part 2 and cloused part one with and skiped on the other 3 films
Posted by Jessie the Sunflower Goddess (Member # 1877) on :
Okay I have got to say that Revenge of the Nerds IV: Nerds in Paradise or Love! Stunk to high heaven because it was a made for TV movie with bad acting. I am sorry but this was a disgrace to the original and even the second one which shouldn't have been made either.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Mission Impossible 2. It was awful. I liked the first one and was really suprised at how good the new one is........
Posted by cindymancini (Member # 679) on :
I have to agree with you Jessie. I didn't really like Revenge of the Nerds II. I thought it kinda sucked. The first is, was and will always be AMAZING!
I mean come on, lines like "Maybe we could have robster craws" are hard to top !
Posted by Valley (Member # 1322) on :
The Ring Two
I watched this last night for the first time, add it to the list of disappointments.
Posted by Blake (Member # 75) on :
SCREAM 3 URBAN LEDGEND 2, 3 AND ANY MORE THEY MAKE AMERICAN PIE 3 There must be loads but i just cant think at the minute
Posted by Alex_In_Wonderland (Member # 4912) on :
How about Fortress 2? Or any of the Highlander sequels? (Highlander 2: The Sickening as it was dubbed). Caddyshack 2 was fairly rank by all accounts - Chevy Chase, the man whose career is still a mystery to me. Beverly Hills Cop 3 anyone?
Franchise films - hardly ever a good idea.
Posted by Jessie the Sunflower Goddess (Member # 1877) on :
I definitely agree with some of the franchise sequels.
Posted by snaggy (Member # 4911) on :
personally, I never liked Neverending Story 2 & 3, the first is a classic. and Free Willy 2 (& was there a 3 for that??)anyways THAT was uncalled for because IMO the 1st Free Willy sucked, lol
Posted by Hordak (Member # 1772) on :
Guess I must be one of the only people alive who enjoyed Highlander II then....?
Worst sequel for me? Perhaps not the actual worst, but certainly the most disappointing:
Aliens vs Predator
You wait 15 years for something, and you get that... my friend and I almost walked out, and were in hysterics throughout. Many others there that evening felt the same. A failure on so many levels. And I don't wish they'd never made an AvP movie, just that it be even SLIGHTLY less crap than this..
Posted by Oreb (Member # 5007) on :
caddyshack II is better than the original, I never understood what was so funny about the first one common, the second one has randy quaid crazy as hell, brilliant. the first one was just so lame for me.
bad sequles:
batman by joel schumacher alien III and resurrection rocky V short circuit II ghost busters II dr doolitlle II son of the mask the whole nine yards, forgot the sequel back to the future III could have been better
Posted by The Mouse Avenger (Member # 4406) on :
quote:Originally posted by Oreb: caddyshack II is better than the original, I never understood what was so funny about the first one common, the second one has randy quaid crazy as hell, brilliant. the first one was just so lame for me.
bad sequles:
batman by joel schumacher alien III and resurrection rocky V short circuit II ghost busters II dr doolitlle II son of the mask the whole nine yards, forgot the sequel back to the future III could have been better
I actually liked Dr. Doolittle 2. Posted by raggedyman (Member # 4065) on :
PREDATOR 2, ROBOCOP 2 & 3, all the LETHAL WEAPON sequels, all the HALLOWEEN sequels, ESCAPE FROM L.A.
Posted by Willow123 (Member # 4953) on :
quote:Originally posted by Alex_In_Wonderland: Beverly Hills Cop 3 anyone?
Uggggh.... I agree. I loved BHC. Heck I even loved BHC2! But part 3 was mind numbingly bad! The only thing that made me laugh was the reapppearance of Serge. (Bronson Pinchot) And even that wasn't enough to save it.
Posted by Alex In Wonderland (Member # 4912) on :
quote:Originally posted by Willow123:
quote:Originally posted by Alex_In_Wonderland: Beverly Hills Cop 3 anyone?
Uggggh.... I agree. I loved BHC. Heck I even loved BHC2! But part 3 was mind numbingly bad! The only thing that made me laugh was the reapppearance of Serge. (Bronson Pinchot) And even that wasn't enough to save it.
It's such a shame that these films could well be the undying memory of Eddie Murphy.
Posted by Chris the CandyFanMan (Member # 3197) on :
Not those. It's when he decided to tone himself down after Beverly Hills Cop 3 (which did have its share of occasional good moments; I for one enjoyed the all-purpose gun he ends up wielding) that he jumped off the cliff.
Posted by AdventuresInGooniesitting (Member # 1882) on :
Teen Wolf Too Karate Kid 4 Short Circuit 2 Revenge of the Nerds 3 & 4 Home Alone 4 Dream a Little Dream 2 Dumb & Dumber 2 Son of the Mask Christmas Vacation 2 (yes, this exists) Big Top Pee-wee (maybe not a sequel, per se, but a damn terrible follow-up to Pee-wee's Big Adventure)
Posted by LONNIE (Member # 3934) on :
Is You Got Mail a sequel to Sleepless in Seattle. Can't tell the two apart except for the email and phone conversations.
Posted by P.S It's Paul... (Member # 1022) on :
... or the plot or the location or the characters names or jobs or personalities..... ?
Just because it's Hanks and Ryan makes it a sequel? Maybe I never knew that St Elmo's Fire was a sequel to The Breakfast Club... oh-wait - they only had some of the same actors in it.
Answer - in maybe an overly ironic and possibly sarcastic style, for which I apologise - No, it's not a sequel.
Posted by maxwellhauser (Member # 4968) on :
Hmm, I'll try to throw out a few that have not been mentioned:
Parent Trap 2,3,4 (middle-aged Hayley Mills) Death Wish 5 (however pt. 3 is one of the greatest action movies ever!) Star Wars Episodes I and II Star Trek: Insurrection Brady Bunch in the White House
Posted by P.S It's Paul... (Member # 1022) on :
I liked Insurrection. I thought it played like a big-screen TNG Episode, which considering there were no more being made, was a nice thing to get.
Now Star Trek 5? There's a sequel that made you feel all nostalgic for Star Trek; The Motion Picture!
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
I'd forgotten that there was more than one Parent Trap (not counting the remake). I guess they were that bad??
Posted by LONNIE (Member # 3934) on :
Dear paul maybe more of a spin off than a sequel like the jeffersons from all in the family
Posted by P.S It's Paul... (Member # 1022) on :
Probably more of a 'that worked well and we need a commercial success - let's cast them both again' marketing ploy. Same with Gere and Roberts in The Rubnaway Bride. Pretty Woman is wasn't.
Posted by LONNIE (Member # 3934) on :
How about Joey a sequel from friends I guess. I never watched either.
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