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Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
The Howling (1981)

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"After a bizarre and near fatal encounter with a serial killer,
a newswoman is sent to a rehabilitation center whose inhabitants may not be what they seem." (IMDb)

Just watched this very good horror film again.
The film was directed by the great Joe Dante and written by John Sayles and Terence H. Winkless.
Dante and Sayles worked together earlier also in Piranha (1978).

The movie stars, Dee Wallace, Christopher Stone, Belinda Balaski, Elisabeth Brooks, Dennis Dugan, Patrick Macnee
and cool co-stars like D1ck Miller and John Sayles himself.

The cast did a pretty good work, Brooks looks very nice as the "maneater" Marsha.
The creature effects, created by Rob Bottin, are fantastic.
These early 80s horror films have that special feel that i love.
Recommended!

Any fans here?

Next: Howling II.

The Howling trailer

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Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
 
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i agree atomik the howling is a really well made early 80s horror ,you always find a lot of people make instant comparisons between the howling and an american werewolf in london whenever the movie is mentioned and the howling normally seems to come off second best.

i must admit i personally do prefer american werewolf but still rate the howling right up there,the cast,the effects,the atmosphere,it's got it all,a really great movie and the only one from the series that i own.


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from the sequels the only one i've watched is howling 2,so i'll be watching your thread with interest.
 
Posted by Dutch Gannon (Member # 10167) on :
 
I just watched this one as well in HD on Sony. It's the fourth time I've seen it. Strange that the first time I saw it I thought it was only just okay, liked it mostly because it was and 80's horror with that great film look which is absent from films today. Then it got better and better with repeat viewings. I've always been a fan of Joe Dante two of his films being my all time favorites The Burbs, and Innerspace. Not to mention both Gremlins films and Matinee, But this one is really great too.

You know I heard alot of bad stuff about the Howling 2, Your Sister is a Werewolf but when I watched it I thought that it was a film that had potential, but was slopped together in too many places to be good. I liked the whole queen of the werewolves sexual predator thing with Sybil Danning, and Christopher Lee could have been good, didn't really like the blonde guy though. On the whole the film just felt unpolished.
 
Posted by Bernie_Lomax (Member # 8571) on :
 
Rick Baker left his protege Rob Bottin to take over doin make up & special effects after Rick was summoned away from the film by John Landis for AWIL.

AWIL is my favourite horror movie of all time but I do often wonder that if Rick Baker was to have stayed on doing The Howling and not done AWIL how things would have turned out.

I know it's got nothing to do with story but often the comparisons are made because of the make up and the type of wolf used. Rick Baker refers to his quadraped as a demon dog from hell and John Landis refers to the biped in The Howling as a Poodle werewolf.

I think Bottin done a really good job but unfortunately could not match up to his mentors handywork.

I like the story and the soundtrack of AWIL much better too.

I know you guys probably aren't after comparisons but it's only natural considering they are both werewolf movies, both made in 81 and both done by great directors and writers.

One thing I really did not like about this movie is how bad the news reporter looked as a werewolf. It didn't look scary at all. Just looked like a spoiled pathetic dog that hadn't been fed yet.

Overall I thought the movie was ok.

I would honestly give it about 5-6/10.
 
Posted by J2ME (Member # 5728) on :
 
I've only seen the first. Not bad, but not a patch on "An American Werewolf in London".
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
I donīt mind the comparison in this case, Bernie.
Like you said itīs natural and yes, i knew that Rick Baker was hired but left to do AWIL.

I agree that the Dee Wallace werewolf looks pretty bad but otherwise the ending is great.
Maybe they made her look like a poodle to increase the shock value... (the shooting)
 
Posted by Bernie_Lomax (Member # 8571) on :
 
aTomiK, I can't remember the ending heaps well but you are probably right.
 
Posted by Dutch Gannon (Member # 10167) on :
 
Hey Bernie got to disagree with you on the music, Pino Donaggio a masterful composer and this theme is fantastic, kind of gives you a romantic/tragetic/jazzy rock feel, I love the ending with the hamburger being grilled, Elizabeth Brooks "Rare". Indicating she's out on the prowl looking to seduce and eat her way through America like burgers, plus it makes me hungry... For both the burger and the woman actually. Great ending

I also like all the side characters, guy in bar who believes the footage is real, has almost no emotion to it. "It was real, she turned into a werewolf and they shot her" Cops at beginning "Don't ask me, ask quickdraw McGraw over here". Classic stuff.

But I do agree some of the effects could have been polished up, Eddy's transformation could have been speeded up, some shots where his eyes are bulging out look a bit too goofy, and it took so long, that I asked my brother I wonder which was faster Eddies transformation, or the time it took Sam Elliot to get his gun out of his holster to pistol whip Ike Clanton on Tombstone.

Karen's transformation could have been better, probably one of the greatest film screams of my opinion and she turns into a blonde marmot, I think they could have made something more werewolf like and still maintained a level of beauty or goodness In fact I feel confident I could come up with one.

P.S Bernie have you checked out any of Pino Donaggio's other soundtracks? Try this one it's good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ipM9obtWeg
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Howling II: Stirba - Werewolf Bitch aka Howling II: ... Your Sister Is a Werewolf (1985)

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"When Ben, the brother of one of the werewolf victims from the first movie,
is told that the world is actually full of werewolves and they're planning to take control, he is skeptical.
After a good deal of convincing from werewolf hunter Stefan, however,
he finally agrees to join Stefan's band of lycanthrope hunters
in Transylvania on a mission to kill Stirba, Queen of the Werewolves.
Can the group survive against her army of evil?" (IMDb)

Wow this was a bad but highly entertaining sequel, directed by Philippe Mora.
Starring Annie McEnroe, Reb Brown, Christopher Lee, Sybil Danning, Marsha A. Hunt and Judd Omen.

The acting is subpar and the screenplay sucks but somehow this film keep you entertained.
Of course itīs always great to see Sybil Danning and yes, sheīs gives her best once again.
She has some wicked outfits which i liked very much.
Christopher Lee chose the role only because there was no werewolf flick on his presume before this one.
It is said that when Christopher Lee was cast in Gremlins 2, one of the first things he did was apologize
to director Joe Dante for being in this film. [Smile]

I didnīt like the locations that much (filmed in Czech Republic)
and all the extras look like they are local farmers.

The creature effects look awful but quite nasty at the same time.
The score, composed by Stephen W. Parsons, is pretty decent.
You can hear the theme tune too many times though.
I loved the legendary end credits [Big Grin]

All in all, not a good movie but iīve seen worse.

Howling II trailer

Next: Howling III, wish me luck [Smile]

I own this UK vhs tape:

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Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Howling III: The Marsupials (1987)

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Oh my god, this movie is a one big joke [Smile]
Once again directed by Philippe Mora and this time set in Australia
the werewolves strike back, or are they marsupials, or what are they?

Howling III is not a horror movie but a pure comedy. There are few "horrific" moments but those wonīt last longer
than few seconds. Thereīs also lots of scientific mumbo jumbo and sometimes i felt that
i was watching a documentary from science channel.

The acting is bad and the cast knows that nothing is to be taken seriously.
Like someone said on IMDb, the comedy is inappropriate, badly timed, and too farcical for words.
The movie stars Barry Otto, Imogen Annesley and Lee Biolos.

The score, composed by Allan Zavod, sucks but the soundtrack includes few interesting Aussie bands like
Vitamin Z, Iīm Talking and Caine and Abel.

Vitamin Z - Wipe Your Tears Away

The guys watch a movie called "It Came from Uranus" on theater, We can see Frank Thring
as a director of "Shape Shifters part 8", cheap werewolf effects and Dame Edna? Oh dear.. [Big Grin]
The film closes with text "Adios Amigos". You have to see it to belive it.

Howling III: The Marsupials trailer

Next: Howling IV. I wonder, where can they go from here?

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Posted by Kash (Member # 297) on :
 
Cool thread aTomiK, I've only seen the original and actually prefer it story wise to an American Werewolf in London. Dee Wallace and Elisabeth Brooks were good, the werewolf transformations range from convincing to overtly comedic. John Sayles witty script makes a lot of post-modern references and its all quite tongue-in-cheek.
 
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
 
you are a very brave man atomik taking on the howling sequels,i hope you manage to keep your sanity intact [Big Grin]

i agree with you about howling 2 it is a complete mess but it's also very(unintentionally) funny and quite entertaining as bad movies go.

i've read the next one howling 4 - the original nightmare is one of the better sequels in the series,saying that i have also read a lot of other not so favourable reviews.

anyhow good luck,i think you're going to need it!
 
Posted by Dutch Gannon (Member # 10167) on :
 
I honestly think that the Howling 2 could have been saved, I wouldn't have made it a sequel to the Howling but the movie could have been good, using all the elements that worked and polishing them up with a good script.

As For Howling III i've never seen it. But I remember very little from Howling 4 when i was very young, I had it on tape and remember watching the part with the naked she wolf woman, it was taped on a tape with several other films, I would always sneak a peak when I could.

I like that last Howling III poster, I wish modern day film makers would go back to the Handpainted posters.
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Howling IV: The Original Nightmare (1988)

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"An author who was sent to the town Drakho, because of a nervous breakdown,
gets wound up in a mysterious mystery about demons and werewolves.
She starts seeing ghosts and dismisses them as her own imagination,
but when they turn out to be real she starts to get suspicious of the odd town and of its past." (IMDb)

Well, in this fourth film, they decided to go back to the origins of the Howling saga.
Howling IV is said to be most faithful adaptation of the Bary Brandner book.

But is it a good movie..? No it isnīt.
This straight to video movie is so boring that i started to miss the craziness what parts 2 and 3 had.
And that is not a good sign. In fact, it is dangerous [Big Grin]

The film, which was shot in South Africa, had financial problems and most of the original crew left during the production.
Finally, John Hough (Biggles, American Gothic) got the director credits.
The cast is soap opera caliber: Romy Windsor, Michael T. Weiss, Antony Hamilton, Susanne Severeid and Lamya Derval.

Most of the plot involves Windsor and Severeid solving this mystery around a nun called Sister Ruth.
Weiss and Hamilton come and go and Derval is the "evil" seductress.
Finally after some 65 minutes we get to see little werewolf action but itīs too late.

Two neat f/x scenes and the smooth theme tune are the best parts of this borefest.

Justin Hayward - Something Evil, Something Dangerous

Howling IV trailer

Next: Howling V.

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Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Howling V: The Rebirth (1989)

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"When a group of people from different walks of life converge in a Hungarian castle situated in Budapest
which has been sealed for 500 years, they bring with them a werewolf which slowly begins to cut their numbers down.
The movie is The Howling a la Agatha Christie's Ten Little Indians." (IMDb)

Another poor Howling sequel.
Directed by Neal Sundstrom and starring Ben Cole, Philip Davis, Victoria Catlin, Elizabeth Shé and stephanie Faulkner.

The acting is slightly better but it wont help much because the screenplay sucks.
The crew head to the castle during the first ten minutes and after that
itīs all about wandering through the castle halls and catacombs. Very dull indeed.

No on-screen werewolf kills (just like in part IV),
everytime the beast attacks, they cut to another scene. So frustrating!

I also own Howling 6 and will give my review in the 90s section later.
But in the meantime i need to check out some quality films first to keep my sanity [Smile]

Howling V trailer

[ 16. August 2016, 04:32: Message edited by: aTomiK ]
 
Posted by Dutch Gannon (Member # 10167) on :
 
Hey aTomiK found this on youtube whilest trying to find a trailer for Howling IV, you might find it interesting, as a time capsule at the very least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblvS-8pC7A&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Haha, we are waiting for your comments, Helen. Have a howling fun halloween time and try to keep your sanity [Big Grin]

Meanwhile, Howling II blu coming from Arrow this november.

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SPECIAL EDITION CONTENTS:

Brand new digital transfer
High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation
Original Uncompressed Mono PCM audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
Audio commentary with director Philippe Mora
Audio commentary with composer Steve Parsons and editor Charles Bornstein
Leading Man – an interview with actor Reb Brown
Queen Of The Werewolves – an interview with actress Sybil Danning
A Monkey Phase – interviews with special make-up effects artists Steve Johnson and Scott Wheeler
Behind-the-Scenes Footage
Alternate Opening and Alternate Ending
Still Gallery
Theatrical Trailer
Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Graham Humphreys
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Haha, what a great thread! I'll save reading the reviews properly till I've seen each one. Looking forward to it all [Big Grin]
 
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
 
The Howling 2 sure is an entertaining mess of a movie preferably watched after a few beers!

Cool alternate cover art and quite few extras on the upcoming Arrow Blu.
 
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
 
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Christopher Lee keeps his cool, but quietly approves this new Arrow edition ! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
The Howling - I misremembered this film. I thought it was a lot more humourous and pretty plotless. So glad I was wrong on both counts. I thought it was just great how if somebody flicked over the TV and watched the first 10 mins or so they'd be thinking it was something entirely different than what it was. As always I was super excited when D!ck popped up! My fave character actor. And I was really rooting for Dee Wallace's character. I loved how she waited through what seemed like an eternally long transformation before attacking haha. I was also beyond happy that I had forgotten the ending as it was magnificent! 8/10
 
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
 
The Howling is a great horror Helen and you'll think it's even better after watching Howling 2.
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Oh God lol. Watching that tonight probably.
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
The Howling II - I've been sitting here at the comp for the last 10 mins trying to think of what to say. But I've got nothing. 3/10
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aTomiK:
I loved the legendary end credits [Big Grin]

I totally thought I bet Atomik loves this part LOL
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
The Howling III - So this one goes into pure comedy horror which isn't my fave type of horror but I can't say I didn't have a good time with this. The story is just absolutely bonkers and I had such a giggle from the minute that baby arrives. Like the first one it had a great ending. 6/10
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aTomiK:
Thereīs also lots of scientific mumbo jumbo and sometimes i felt that
i was watching a documentary from science channel.

Haha [Big Grin]
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
Iīm glad that you survived the wrath of Stirba and the yuckiness of The Marsupials, Helen because i know that one has to have some willpower to go through this stuff.

I see that you are a strong individual whom i respect more everyday [Big Grin]
 
Posted by gordongecko (Member # 4685) on :
 
I have not seen The Howling. Sorry! I'm curious, how does it play for a Halloween movie? Would it kind of fit that vibe? I like watching horror movies around Halloween, so wondering if I should try The Howling this year!
 
Posted by aTomiK (Member # 6575) on :
 
I think that the original Howling will do just fine as a halloween movie.
Autumn is THE time for werewolves and iīm going to rewatch An American Werewolf in London one of these days.
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Howling IV - Oh come now, what was this! It felt much more like a TV pilot that didn't go any further than a film. The acting was atrocious and looked half dubbed a lot of the time. Plus side, the last 10 minutes were great fun. Please tell me the next 4 are better. 3/10
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aTomiK:

But is it a good movie..? No it isnīt.
This straight to video movie is so boring that i started to miss the craziness what parts 2 and 3 had.
And that is not a good sign. In fact, it is dangerous [Big Grin]

God, me too!
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Howling V - While no match for another werewolf whodunnit, The Beast Must Die (1974), this was the best sequel so far. It was really atmospheric and just stunning to look at. I need to live in that castle right now! I also liked how you only seen bits and pieces of the werewolf and the dramatic music was priceless! 7/10
 
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Helen_S:
Howling V - While no match for another werewolf whodunnit, The Beast Must Die (1974), this was the best sequel so far. It was really atmospheric and just stunning to look at. I need to live in that castle right now! I also liked how you only seen bits and pieces of the werewolf and the dramatic music was priceless! 7/10

I've never seen Howling 5 but I'm sure I read that it was shot in Budapest and filmed at the Budapest Castle,if so i have been to Buda Castle and also to the Buda underground labyrinth which for a tourist attraction is pretty eerie!

I wouldn't mind checking out part 5 for this reason alone and also that most people do say that this is one of the slightly better sequels in the series!
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
I'm soooo jealous!!!
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Howling VI: Freaks - Oh yay, this might be my favourite of the series so far! I just loved the whole feel of this one, the nice slow build and I'm just a sucker for freaky carnival stuff. I loved the 2 main guys especially the Harker character who reminded me so much of Michael Redgrave. The transformations were cool and I kind of admired the cheek of the Hammer Dracula rip near the end. 8/10
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
Howling VII: Mystery Woman - I was loving this at first. It reminded me of the not so great but entertaining made for TV country films I watched as a teen. Oddly it was once it went heavily into the werewolf side of it that I was turned off. The terrible reaching of linking in parts 4 and 5 really bugged me. Also worst transformation ever! 5/10
 
Posted by Helen_S (Member # 5804) on :
 
The Howling: Reborn - This one is your typical modern teen horror romance. Watchable enough I suppose. About the best I can say really. 5/10
 


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