I watched it last night from beginning to end, and it is such a great teen movie. It has everything I miss about the movies, the teenage girls and guys all dressed so nice, and they were covered up-but looked really good. Even Kelly Lebrock, she looked very sexy, but if you look at what she was wearing, she was pretty covered up..her butt crack wasn't hanging out..that was for sure. I never noticed that it took place in Shermer, IL....isn't that the same town as the Breakfast Club?? Did John Hughes grown up there, was it a real town??? When I saw that movie...I thought about that's how me and my friends all were ,hanging out at the mall on the weekends. Going to Orange Julius! That was fun. When I see teenagers now, I fear them, their vocabulary is so awful, I know that the f-word is going be thrown around like it was nothing, and when I was in school..I didn't know but 1 girl who ever said that word ever...and she was total trash, that is what we classified people as, that spoke like that, and now, there isn't anybody that doesn't throw that in to a sentence somewhere. I saw a piece of that show Punk'd with Ashton Kutcher, does anyone like him, he's the big teen dude now...and I can't stand him. He isn't funny. He puts on this act like his stoned, or not playing with a full deck, and he talks like he is a half wit or something, and it is so phoney...it doesn't come across as humor to me, just stupidity, and that's what I see when I see all these new younger actors trying to do stuff that has already been done, that can't pull it off, it has no originality, and they just look dumb. Like Anthony Michael Hall in Weird Science, when he was drunk -that was so funny, I was laughing my head off, and I have seen that movie so many times-people I guess just don't have the realisim anymore to make a movie work.
Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
Parts of isis9968's post:
quote: [snip]...I never noticed that it took place in Shermer, IL....isn't that the same town as the Breakfast Club?? Did John Hughes grown up there, was it a real town??? [snip]
Most of John Hughes' movies took place (and was filmed) in and around the Chicago, IL area, particularly Northbrook, IL. The high school that he went to was situated on a Shermer Road in Northbrook. But Shermer is a fictional town!
quote:...I saw a piece of that show "Punk'd" with Ashton Kutcher, does anyone like him...
Apparently, Demi Moore does!
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Oh...I forgot..I wanted to see if anyone else loved the soundtrack to Weird Science???
I love the song Tenderness at the end-by General Public,
and I love the title song-Weird Science-by Oingo Boingo...is that right, or did I get them reversed.
Yeah...I know Demi Moore likes Ashton...but that still isn't saying too much for him.
Posted by Rindiegh11 (Member # 1806) on :
Have you ever seen the movie "Dogma"? It may not be for everyone's tastes but there is a hilarious scene in it about Shermer Il and how all of John Huges movies take place there...Your post reminded me of it
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I have never seen Dogma, some one told me about it, and it seemed very bizarre.
Did Sixteen Candles take place there too?? Do they mention it in the movie somewhere??
Posted by Jaymi (Member # 1434) on :
I have a link to a John Hughes site that explains that Shermer, Il was the name of Northbrook earlier on. There are also some pics of the locations for those movies....Quite cool...
Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
Weird Science is a great movie! John Hughes is brilliant!
Ashton Kutcher is annoying, snd I doubt he and his craddle robbing girlfriend will last.
Just a side note: I don't think it's wrong to date someone younger than you, but this whole "dashton" thing is making me sick to my stomache. I'm tired of reading and hearing about them.
They irritate me almost as much as "Bennifer".
Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
Isis9968 wrote:
quote:I have never seen Dogma, some one told me about it, and it seemed very bizarre.
It is. I got a feeling that you probably would hate it. It was filmed in Los Angeles, New Jersey, and around the Pittsburgh, PA area.
Writer-director Kevin Smith is a big fan of 80's movies, especially Steven Spielberg, John Hughes, and the "Star Wars" series. But his own movies don't seem like an 80's production, and they are...well, let's just say they are an acquired taste: you either love them or you truly detest them.
Posted by Ronnie (Member # 465) on :
i liked dogma for some 'bizarre' reason but i can't stand ben affleck (sp?) the bus scene was so funny. and i also enjoyed chasing amy. but that's it.
weird science is just excellent and oingo boingo rules.
Posted by ValleyCat (Member # 1322) on :
I first saw "Weird Science" back in the 80s at the theater and I couldn't stop laughing. I was so surprised, because the previews were not very good and I actually only went because of my friends.
I actually hit a point where I couldn't stop laughing. It seemed like EVERYTHING Chet said was a riot! Well, I've seen "Weird Science" several times since then and I still enjoy it, but the first time will always be memorable.
Posted by McFly (Member # 354) on :
One other tidbit of trivia (or possible folklore): Hughes said he wrote the script in two days. Not hard to believe, with a premise that like that the film basically writes itself.
Posted by BernardMarx (Member # 2184) on :
The only frightening thing about teenagers nowadays is their taste in movies and music.
Posted by Jessica Rabbit 2 Russian Rabbit (Member # 1904) on :
I absolutly LUUUUUUURRRRRVVVVEEE Weird science (drop and give me 20) i think Kelly le Brock is gorgeous and her character as lisa is everything i would like to be. (im not far off though) I thought the end bit with the mad max bikers was a bit corny and i dont really enjoy watcing that part but everything else is SPOT ON!!!
Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
Weird Science, what a great movie. Dogma, a great movie in itself, but some people had religious objections to the movie.
Shermer was the town in Sixteen Candles, I believe it says it on the school in the beginning.
We are DEVO
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
I loved Weird Science too. What did you guys think about the Tv series Weird Science? Funny that the guy who plays Chet in the series was the Blonde guy in Waynes World in the car when they headbang to Queen.
Posted by sam hain2 (Member # 1964) on :
quote:Originally posted by BernardMarx: The only frightening thing about teenagers nowadays is their taste in movies and music.
Granted for the most part I agree with your statement, but people our age said the same thing about us when we were teenagers. It's just a natural evolution of the food chain.
Posted by Jaymi (Member # 1434) on :
I had to pass on the tv series...didn't work like the movie. Take Pretty in Pink or Better off Dead and make a sitcom out of it... (?!?) It would not work...
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I don't think it's just the music and movies of some of todays' teens that are bad. I think it's their whole out look on everything, and I think alot of them are so self centered, and they think they got everything coming to them, they don't do anything to deserve it. I know some girls who are 15 now, and to get them off their butts, you'd need a stick of dynamite, they whine around, and complain about everything, and everything they put down, and they are moody, and the parents don't care, they talk to their mom like she's dirt. When I see groups of them, like even at Halloween...they are cursing up a storm. I saw another group of kids at the mall doing the same thing, and smoking, and they look like some of them were maybe 10 years old. It gets old. They need a good dose of real reality, and they also seem so uncompassionate too..and completely clueless. Now I am not talking every teenager, I am speaking majority-as usual, because my neighbors kids are great kids, they do chores around their house, they work part time, they are well behaved, they are polite, so it isn't every kid, but they see it in high school, and some of the stories they have told me, it is nothing to like when I was in high school.
Posted by Missie (Member # 2186) on :
quote:Originally posted by Riptide: I loved Weird Science too. What did you guys think about the Tv series Weird Science? Funny that the guy who plays Chet in the series was the Blonde guy in Waynes World in the car when they headbang to Queen.
There was a series? Where was I? That seems awful.
And blonde guy in the car in Waynes World...do you mean the one who plays Terry? Not Dana Carvey (Garth) but the guy in the back seat...he played Chet? That's odd.
Missie
Posted by Missie (Member # 2186) on :
quote:Originally posted by Devolution: Devolution here, Dogma, a great movie in itself, but some people had religious objections to the movie.
Not to start a debate of any kind, but I love Dogma...in fact, I love all of the Kevin Smith films and Dogma is my fave of them all. It is highly offensive to people who are devout Catholics, though, or who have issues with religious humour.
The ironic thing here is that it is a Disney film (Miramax) and they got major hate mail and death threats when the movie first came out. Imagine that...Mickey Mouse getting death threats.
I agree...I don't think Isis would enjoy it at all.
Missie
P.S. Dogma is on Comedy Central right now. Weird.
Posted by sam hain2 (Member # 1964) on :
quote:Originally posted by isis9968: I don't think it's just the music and movies of some of todays' teens that are bad. I think it's their whole out look on everything, and I think alot of them are so self centered, and they think they got everything coming to them, they don't do anything to deserve it. I know some girls who are 15 now, and to get them off their butts, you'd need a stick of dynamite, they whine around, and complain about everything, and everything they put down, and they are moody, and the parents don't care, they talk to their mom like she's dirt. When I see groups of them, like even at Halloween...they are cursing up a storm. I saw another group of kids at the mall doing the same thing, and smoking, and they look like some of them were maybe 10 years old. It gets old. They need a good dose of real reality, and they also seem so uncompassionate too..and completely clueless. Now I am not talking every teenager, I am speaking majority-as usual, because my neighbors kids are great kids, they do chores around their house, they work part time, they are well behaved, they are polite, so it isn't every kid, but they see it in high school, and some of the stories they have told me, it is nothing to like when I was in high school.
BS Vernon. The kids haven't changed, you've changed.
Posted by noikz (Member # 1000) on :
The Weird Science TV show was terrible. An insult to a classic movie.
quote: I have a link to a John Hughes site that explains that Shermer, Il was the name of Northbrook earlier on. There are also some pics of the locations for those movies....Quite cool...
Whats the link Jaymi?
Posted by Jaymi (Member # 1434) on :
quote: The only frightening thing about teenagers nowadays is their taste in movies and music.
quote: I don't think it's just the music and movies of some of todays' teens that are bad. I think it's their whole out look on everything, and I think alot of them are so self centered, and they think they got everything coming to them, they don't do anything to deserve it. I know some girls who are 15 now, and to get them off their butts, you'd need a stick of dynamite, they whine around, and complain about everything, and everything they put down, and they are moody, and the parents don't care, they talk to their mom like she's dirt. When I see groups of them, like even at Halloween...they are cursing up a storm. I saw another group of kids at the mall doing the same thing, and smoking, and they look like some of them were maybe 10 years old. It gets old. They need a good dose of real reality, and they also seem so uncompassionate too..and completely clueless. Now I am not talking every teenager, I am speaking majority-as usual, because my neighbors kids are great kids, they do chores around their house, they work part time, they are well behaved, they are polite, so it isn't every kid, but they see it in high school, and some of the stories they have told me, it is nothing to like when I was in high school.
Speaking as a 15 year old girl i agree that not all teenagers today are perfect little angels like im sure they were in your generation. I was so offended when i read these posts that say we're all lazy clueless chain smokers that dont respect our parents and have no taste in movies or music. What do you know a handful of teens like this? I would rather be a teenager like you described than a prejudgus old woman like yourself.
Posted by noikz (Member # 1000) on :
Great site Jaymi. Cheers for the link.
I'm off to watch Nat Lampoons Xmas Vacation now and eat lots and lots of mince pies.
Posted by sam hain2 (Member # 1964) on :
quote:Originally posted by materialgirl347: Speaking as a 15 year old girl i agree that not all teenagers today are perfect little angels like im sure they were in your generation. I was so offended when i read these posts that say we're all lazy clueless chain smokers that dont respect our parents and have no taste in movies or music. What do you know a handful of teens like this? I would rather be a teenager like you described than a prejudgus old woman like yourself.
I don't think todays teens are any different know then when I was a kid (I'm 39) some of us were lazy, some of us smoked, most of us drank, we all swore and at one time or another we were all disrespectful to our parents. I feel all thats changed is the pop culture and society in general. But kids will always be kids.
Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
A bit too much bickering, but from the midway point of view, as someone who is somewhat old school at 28, but teaches kids that are 14-18, Sam is right. Kids are kids, I honestly think that in the academic point of view their ability to retain anything for more than 24 hours is non existent, but... that's not what I was going to go into. I try to keep things short and sweet. I don't necessarily agree with my dear Isis, but I do see where she is coming from. I unfortunately think that there is no utopia out there. Every place has it's smokers, drinkers, etc. but the important things to know that not everyone lived the life that you (anyone who is reading this) lived. As a matter of fact the biggest thing that I had to learn when I became a teacher was that everyone in the class doesn't want to learn, and when you are in honors classes your whole life, you think that this is an impossibility.
Sorry for the rant, teens are teens, I teach them, and as for the changes, the 80's teen in the movies was a watered down version of what they were supposed to be then. Maybe writers don't want to tell stories that don't have a happy ending, I don't know.
We are DEVO
Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
I wasn't going to reply to these posts, but as usual, I am totally disregarding my submissive side. Isis, we have had many converstaions about this sort of thing before, and in the end we just always agreed to disagree. However, while reading these posts today I was thoroughly irritated. As most of you already know, I am a 16 year old girl. And yes, I do drink, and yes, I have cursed(big shocker), and I have been outrageously disrespectful to my parents before, but(as mentioned before) I am an honors student, I am incredibly social, and I like to think that I am very worldly(further proven by your constant narrow minded posts). You can't label anybody as good or bad, black or white. Furhtermore who the hell are you to say what is right and wrong, what is status quo and what isn't. How dare you judge anybody. I can't understand how some people can put themselves so high up on their own personal pedastool that fogs out reality and somehow gives them liscence to determine how people should and shouldn't be. I mean, just because I curse and occasionaly drink on the weekends and don't always respect my elders...does that really make me a bad person? Trust me on this, I'm not the exception, you are. I don't think I have ever talked to anybody who was so offened and shocked by the smallest of things. At first it was just annoying, then it was refreshing, and now I'm just simply irritated. I truly am not trying to be cruel and I don't want you to think that is a direct attack on your character or opinions, but I did need to vent. I hope you read this post and not take it offensively(which I understand, may be hard to do) but that I have somehow provided you with a more open minded outlook on this. Once again, not trying to discriminate, just trying to educate....
Tootles!
Posted by sam hain2 (Member # 1964) on :
I do know one thing. I believe it's harder being a kid now then when i was growing up. When I was a kid most families only had the father that worked so the mother was always there to watch the kids. But nowdays most families need both parentsto work in order to make ends meet. Also the divorce rate keeps going higher so theres too many one parent households. But all in all I still think kids are pretty much the same now then they were when I was growing up.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I shouldn't even respond to this thread anymore. I mean it is Xmas eve, and the ones that think I am an old woman, and River specifically, you guys get so defensive, and I am talking about the teenagers around me, where I leave, and my friends kids, and how they talk, and you know I am so glad you wrote what you did, because you proved my point exactly. And I am glad River, that you find disrespecting your parents and under aged drinking to balance out with being a honor student. Why is that? Why do you think your parents deserve that? I don't think every teenager is a bad person, I never said that, and I specifically said that wasn't what I was saying. But, in comparison to how teens used to be, to now..it just keeps going down hill. You don't have to be a teacher or be aroundteens every day, to see it in the stores, or in your own home from your friends children...it is evrywhere. You know you act like you have every right to say whatever you want, and great..there are things that you have said (River) in other posts on here, that I found offensive, and I just stayed away from those topics. I think the way society is ....has a huge factor in what is portrayed in the movies and the media, and the music out there, and it is very relavant to this discussion board. But, I am talking in general about stuff, but the ones that take it personal, it must have hit a major nerve, and hit close to home.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Oh...and as for the smoking and drinking....which I have always thought was so stupid, no matter what age I was...but I wasn't putting people down for doing it...If I did..then I am putting my own mother and father down, and my Aunt-who died of a brain aneurysm, as a result of smoking. It is a shame that people don't learn when there is all this education out there on the health hazards,and yet people still think they are being "cool" or explain to me what the reason is for doing something you know can kill you? I feel bad for anyone who is addicted to nicotine, it is a harder habit they say to quit than heroin. So, I am sure there are alot of people that wish they never would have started, so it makes me ill to see young kids, getting hooked on something, because nobody was there to tell them what they are in for, and for them to care at all about their life.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Oh, and Merry Christmas.
Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
Once again Isis, I think we should just agree to disagree....again. I should have just kept my mouth shut in the spirit of Christmas. Despite what anyone thinks, I hate bickering, it really gets old and is a total mood killer. i apologize Isis, I really didn't want to put you in a sour mood, I was just venting. As for everyone else, I am very sorry to all of you who have to continuously read this ongoing squabbling. It's almost a new year, lets wipe the slate clean, and just stay away form those subjects that rub us the wrong way...