Aside from the 80's, I just wonder if we all share other interests.
I love decorating, the best things on t.v are the home make-over shows, like Trading Spaces and While you were out, but my new favorite is Clean House on the Style Channel.
I like all kinds of music not just the 80's, I like alot of the 70's music even better, like easy listening music like Firefall and Bread.
I like rollerskating, biking, hiking, bowling, swimming, tennis, raquetball, mini golfing, playing board games or trivia games.
I like baking and cooking, and trying new recipes, or even just trying new foods.
I love animals, we have a pet ferret named Bindy, and an aquarium.
I love antiques.
How about the rest of ya, what do you do in your free time??
Posted by Ronnie (Member # 465) on :
i am very much into collecting music (80s, classic rock, and hard rock).
i love watching sports and attending events or games. mostly boxing, tennis, and football. tennis is my favorite. i like to play it as well.
i go to concerts at least once a month. i am into the local scene, and have family members who are in bands that perform around the valley. so going to see them, is big fun for me.
i like sitting at my desk, listening to my headphones...drawing pictures..old album covers or whatever comes to mind. and even coloring in coloring books.
i also like games: win, lose, or draw..pictionary and mostly entertainment trivia games.
i used to rollor skate when i was younger, but i haven't done it in so long. i skated for hours every weekend at a skating rink in phx.
Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
I guess I'm kind of a tomboy because I collect comic books and action figures. I also like to write and act. Other than that, I'd consider myself a boring person.
Posted by sam hain2 (Member # 1964) on :
Ronnie, If I ever do move to the valley of the sun where would you reccommend going to see concerts? I'm more interested in the mid to smaller sized venues where I can see the good 80's hair metal bands play or the new up and coming bands.
Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
I love, love, love to play soccer! It takes up a lot of my time afterschool, at night, and on the weekends. I love to collect rare River Phoenix stuff too, although that's kinda sad. Like Ronnie, I'm into the local scene too. As a matter-o-fact I'm hittin a show this weekend. I also love to write. I'm the best at poetry, but I think after I take some classes I could be a pretty screenplay writer. I also love to read. Right now I'm reading a book called Youth In Revolt, w/out a doubt the most hilarious book I've ever read.(this says alot) Anyone who wants funny, perv, humor written in an extensive vocabulary must check it out! heheheheh. Besides this which is a lot, I like to swim and hang out w/ my friends and my pup.
Tootles!
P.S. I collect Betty Boop stuff aswell.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I am a pretty creative person, artistically too, I can draw anything. I took oil painting classes for years, and won some 1st place ribbons, in different contests. I almost went to school to be an art teacher. But I always hated art history, and pottery and alot of the other things I had to take with art in high school, it was too much of a hobby to be a profession. I think I am pretty good at interior decorating. I have had people all week long, come to my house and knock on my door, cause they can't believe my Halloween decorations, so I end up bringing them in to tour my house, my friends have said I should charge admission. No one can believe the magnatitude of stuff I have. I guess you could say I am obsessed with Halloween. I have this bride dummy out on the Balcony, and between the two pillars below the balcony is a huge spiderweb, and then I have this giant spider, wired to the railing, and it looks like her pet. There are lights all around the balcony. I made a Frankenstein, on the side of my house, I took a pair of jeans, and a Halloween t-shirt and nailed them to the house, then took a cut out Frankenstein head decoration, and then used a plastic pumpkin to make him look like a trick or treater, and I made a big werewolf under my light in the yard, and there is a whole fall scene, with a hay bail, and cornstalks, and pumpkins, and mums, and other halloween items, kids come here everyday to check it out. I took this huge white sheet that I had used as the display in the magazine I was just in, and threw it up over this big park light, and tied it, and it looks like this giant ghost. Every windows has those window silhouettes in them, if you have never seen them, they are aesome, alot of people have asked where I got them, because they didn't know what they were. I got these cool signs, that you cut out of plastic, and they are all over my porch, they said things like, Notice party in progress; bring your own boos. My son loves that one! The inside is worse than the outside, even my bedrooms are all decorated somehow. I am hoping I can get some digital pictures, and then I will stick some on here. My mom says she can't even describe it to people, my friends all bring a ton of film. It is so fun, it's putting it all away that is a drag. Oh well.
Posted by Ronnie (Member # 465) on :
sam:
for smaller venues..
CELEBRITY THEATRE- (seated venue) there isn't a bad seat in the house because the building is a circle shape so it seems more personal with the stage in the middle. and a lot of older bands perform there.
DODGE THEATRE- same as the celebrity...
NITA'S HIDEAWAY- great venue. lots of smaller bands perform there..very good for local bands as well. (located in tempe)
i usually hear of the hair bands traveling with at least a few different bands together, and most of them end up at the CRICKET PAVILION. it's not that big, and it's outside.
THE BASH ON ASH- a small small venue where most of the local bands perform. big bands actually perform there as well, but it gets crowded quick. (tempe, as well)
hope that helps. Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
Math, Movies, Music and Miscellaneous.
That and sports pretty much comprise all of me.
We are DEVO
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I like M& M's too Devo, hehehehe.
Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
The 4 M's, that is how I usually describe myself to my students.
We are DEVO
Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
I love to draw and paint. My house looks like an 80’s subway train because of my hobby. Every once in a while I like to read a book ( sadly enough I only like Stephen King novels ) As for sports I love to watch boxing and tennis and every 4 years the world cup soccer. Oh, and I love to learn new languages, I even used to speak Lakota once, but since you don’t hear that every day, I’ve forgotten most of it.
But the one thing I love most is just relax and listening to my favourite music...
Yeah, I know, I’m dull.
Posted by McFly (Member # 354) on :
Pretty sad, the 80s is pretty much it for me. Music, I live for every new special edition 80s dvd that comes out, 80s tv reruns. The only other real interest is baseball, my other passion. I enjoy writing as well.
But mostly an entertainment related life Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
I'm really into movies. I could curl up in the corner of my couch and watch movies all day and be perfectly content.
I also like to play golf. I'm into a lot of other sports but I haven't done them in years; like water skiing, roller skating, raquetball, softball and tennis. I enjoy being outdoors. I like to go fishing too!
I love to do crafty things like cross stitching. I have so many pieces done and ready to frame or do something with that I could blow a lot of dough framing it all. I enjoy it though and that's why I do it.
I like to spend time with my husband too. He's my best friend and just being around him makes me happy. (Oh don't get me wrong, it's not all perfect! There are days where I want him to leave me alone, but not for long. )
Ali...where do you like to act? I like to act as well. That's another thing I haven't done in years. I'd love to get back into it, maybe I can find a local theater or something. Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
TKO, ur into soccer too? Awesome! I'm actually going to the women's world cup this sounday at the Home Depot Stadium. Sadly, it won't include the U.S., but its ok cuz four years ago I attended when they won!
Tootles! Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
Hope you have fun, River Posted by Muffy Tepperman (Member # 1551) on :
Isis, I just got my degree in Interior Design. I'm more into the construction, industrial design side of design then decorating. Hey I also love antiques. Especially modern furniture.
Devo are you a math teacher? You know like most people I hated math in highschool. I had to take three math classes to get my degree. I love it now. I got A's in all three classes.
Posted by FontanaG (Member # 1673) on :
Well I tell ya if I still had my D J equipment I would love to play music for parties and get paid some serious duckets. But now I just kick it at home draw a little, I have some original cholo/chola cartoons I drew. I also help out my kids and coach in thier baseball season. And I love when we have a party and I break out the eighties records and have people come up to me and can't believe I have so many crates of records of the eithties and early ninties. Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
That's awesome that you draw Fontana...I wish I could. Good Luck w/ ur comics!
Tootles! Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
My hobbies seem to revolve around music, sports, movies and art. I have an insatiable appetite for 80's music and movies where sometimes I have to get a grip on myself because I have a small room! I love computer art and graphics, which is what I do in my spare time when i'm not practicing guitar.
Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
Yeah, Muffy, I am a math teacher, it's scary, no one likes math, I love it. I got my BS in it.
We are DEVO
Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
Janette- I act mostly in local venues and theatres, and theater clubs and dinners. It's not big time or anything but it's allot of fun. I also do voice work for local radio stations and commercials. I used to work for a local television station interviewing Pro sports players from the NFL,NBA,MLB and the NHL and pretty much any other kind of sport. I loving acting the most though, it's an escape. Where do you act?
Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
Ali...that sounds like a lot fun. I tried radio when I worked at a station as a copy writer. They told me my voice was too young sounding for some of the spots. But did they ever ask me when they needed a young voice...nooo... I think the production coordinator liked to do those voices. She was a 60yr old woman but I think she liked having her voice altered to sound young. She never did though...oh well.
I haven't done any acting since college. I took a class in theater. Before that it was just high school plays and stuff. I just moved to a new town so I may try to find a local theater or something to get involved in. I'm a tad shy so I have to muster up a lot of guts to go audition, but I know if I do I'd have fun at it.
I was also an extra in an independent film once. That was really cool. I happened across that one because my mom worked with a lady who's daughter was a producer for the movie. Fun! Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
That sounds like fun! I hate auditions too. It seems you get rejected more than you get parts sometimes. I realize now that it's not because I'm not any good, I just may not be what they're looking for. It's a hard business, thats why I like local theatre groups. Its much more fun and you actually get to act.
Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
I agree. I learned that really fast...I may not be what they want. I thought about having a career in acting, but there are a lot of people out there wanting the exact same thing. How many want to be like Julia Roberts and how many are?
I enjoy what I do for a living now but still have the bug, so I think I'll do the same thing and head for the local theater. Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
Good idea! it's so enjoyable. You get to have a life and still do something you love.
It's funny how some of the successful actors that are out there aren't even that good at acting. They have the right look or know the right people. There are plenty of actors out there today that I think stink at acting.
Well I hope you have allot of fun at yoour local theatre. it's so much rewarding being live in front of an audience. You can hear all their reactions and the applause is great! Good luck! Posted by TresFoxy (Member # 542) on :
Well I know no one has looked at this post in about a month but I wanted to let people know what I like to do as well! I was just in the mood to finally answer this post!! I have read but made no response... Well here it goes...
~I am getting a double major in interior design (just like Muffy Yea!! ) and Historic Resoration with a minor in business. So yes I will be about 90 when I graduate!!!LOL ( Anyone need there house re~done??? private consulations... ) ~ I used to be a dancer for about 15 years (Jazz, ballet,pointe (toe), tap, Hawaiian, lyrical and senior Jazz company) ~ In high school I was a majorette and colorgaurd member... I like variety ~ I adore the theater and try to get involved with it when ever possible. ( I just starting to sponser the local chapter of ITS (international thespian society) at my old high school ~ I have been in many local productions so I love to act! I am a huge stage hog! Love the limelight! ~ Love everything 80's!!! ~My next love is old buildings!!! hence the historic preservation degree... ~If you love old buildings and gorgeous architecture you should visit detroityes.com my 2nd favorite site and the only other place that I post ~ I love abandoned buildings they have soo much potential!!! ~ I also love to travel!!! My newest goal is to go to every country that I have heritage in... ~ I am a mutt when it comes to nationalities... I am 11 different nationalities!! ~ I have been to London, Paris (twice), Berlin, Amsterdam, and Brussels. Just 6 more countries to go! ~ I love restoring thrift store finds... My apartment is completely decorated with items that cost $10 dollars or less (I guess mainly why I like thrift store finds is because I am a poor college student!!!) ~ I collect unsharpened pencils (weird aye??), records (60's,70's,80's), 80's movies, and purses ~ I also love all home decor shows as well. ~Trading Spaces rules!!!! ~ I also like "what not to wear" ~I love all cultural events any chance I get to learn about another culture or experience their food or music or dance I love it!!! ! I am also engaged to a wonderful man who ROCKS (usually lol)
Well enough about me just felt like I knew everyone else but no one knew "me" Posted by OWLkaholic (Member # 2027) on :
My other interests include sports, both playing (especially golf) and attending. I attend a lot KC Royals games, Mizzou Football and Basketball, and the occasional KC Chiefs game (those tickets drain the wallet to much to make it a normal activity). I also enjoy traveling as much as possible and am known to to take off at the drop of the hat. One thing I cherish very much as it doesnt happen a whole lot is just getting together with old friends. Talking about the crazy stunts good and bad we used to pull always make for hours of laughter. I am fortunate to live near some very nice lakes so in the summertime the only place to be in order to relax and just hang out is on the water as I milk one of my friends for useage of their boat lol. And lastly I enjoy listining to live music whether its a big time show or just a local talent.
Posted by Jessica Rabbit 2 Russian Rabbit (Member # 1904) on :
I LOVE MUSIC all music, my favorite music is old skool hardcore, Jungle, Old skool house (acid) and garage (especially 80's House) Trip hop (Portishead, Massive attack) RnB, Soul etc.
I am also on a sound engineering course (well i start it in Jan) which i cant wait for... So i can build a studio in my room and make my own tunes, Im also learning to mix and i wanna be able to scratch too!
Me loves drinking Vodka and getting very very druuuunkk... and spending time with my brother and my friends we normally have partys at my brothers flat at the weekend.
My Fiancee is also my hobbie
I love photographs and home video's im addicted to taking photo's where ever i go.
Posted by deathbystereo80 (Member # 2005) on :
I go horse-back-riding whenever I find the time. I actually love all kinds of animals, and the one reason I dislike having to work is that I can't have a dog. My boyfriend and me sometimes go to this animal shelter here and take "homeless" dogs for a walk. It just breaks my heart every time, though, having to put him back into his kennel afterwards...
I love reading, and I play the piano.
I also like watching soccer (can't wait for the worldcup 2006 which will be in Germany. RiverPhoenix4life, you should come over and watch it with us! I have a spare bed! )
And I love going out with friends, dancing till 6 in the morning... Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Deathbystereo-you sound like me with the animals. When I was a veternarian's assistant, I worked at an animal hospital, in downtown Richmond, VA and it was open 24 hours, and sometimes I would have to spend the night there, and be the only one there, it was rather scary. I would watch tv all night, and I'd let all the animals out of their cages, and they would follow me around. I could get any animal to like me, even if they would bite other people-dogs that is....I feel connected to animals. Cats are a different story, I had a cat jump up on my head when I went to put it in a cage, a dog barked and scared it, and it got away, and ran right up my head, and I ended up with 8 stitches, right above my right eyebrow from that cat, it was there to be neutered, so maybe it sensed what was happening, I actually got to perform that surgery all by myself. And every cat I ever adopted turned crazy on me...so cats are probably my least favorite animal. I sometimes like animals more than people. Most of the time, actually. When I was single I use to volunteer at the SPCA and I'd clean out cages and take animals for walks, and I really liked it, they need so much help at them, that if people have free time, and need something worthwhile to do, it makes you feel good when you do things like that.
Posted by deathbystereo80 (Member # 2005) on :
Isis, I really had to laugh when I read your post because the one animal I really don't like are cats!!! I always feel that they have this kind of sneaky character, I don't know... Looking at a dog you always know exactly wether he's happy or sad or angry or whatever, but with cats I have absolutely no clue. Somehow, dogs are like little boys and cats seem to me like ill tempered women. Well, of course there probably are exceptions and I apologize to all the cat lovers on this site - probably I'd think differently if I had a cat, who knows? I know that many people love cats for their independence, but they are just not for me. As I said, I apologize if I offended any cat lover here, I guess I just don't know cats very well.
Posted by Jessica Rabbit 2 Russian Rabbit (Member # 1904) on :
Its Weird cos i dont like cats either, i find them very snooty!
I love animals, my favorite animal is Elephants and dogs.
I had an American Pitbull called Punch for 16 years up until last christmas, He was beige, with white paws, a white tip on his tail and some black patch on his face, he was absolutely gorgeous... I wil post a picture v soon so you can see...
Who else has got pets and what are all your favorite animals???
I like Alligators too. Posted by Ronnie (Member # 465) on :
<-----------IS a cat lover. my feelings are hurt now
haha kidding Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
All CATS are great I love 'em,the crazy balls of purrin' fluff. I truly believe that everybody should own at least 17 cats.This is the number needed to achieve perfect harmonious living between humans and felines.Just imagine the syncronised puuuuurrrrrrr.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I never said I hated cats, I said they are my "least" favorite animal, probably because of all the trauma they caused me. I like them though..but every cat I spared it's life, did weird stuff, like I had a black cat that was a boy, and we neutered him, but he still tried to love up my blanket-he was a total sleaze, and you'd catch him, and say "knock it off" and he'd take off, and flip, and hit the wall, like he knew he got caught. Then I had another cat, it would get scared of my Grandpa's dog, and climb up pine trees and never come back, I had to climb up them and pry her loose, and then I had a cat who went to the bathroom in all my house plants. They stink too, I had 2 cats in my apartment when I was single, they were strays...and my room mate would call my room the bog of the eternal stench from Labyrinth..and I am a neat freak, so that made me mad at them for being such pigs. I loved my dog we had growing up, his name was Teddy, and he was part collie and part St. Bernard. He was so well trained, that I could walk him beside me, I had a paper route, and I didn't even need a leash for him. He loved all of our wild animals we had. We saved a bunch of orphaned animals. I had a pet skunk, 6 raccoons, a sparrow hawk-which I saved from being stoned to death at camp from some mean kids, and it couldn't fly when I found it, but I taught it, and he would land on Teddy's head, it was so cool. Teddy would let the raccoons climb on his back, and he'd carry them around in his mouth. I had a red fox- we stole him from people who had him chained up by a road as a pet, and he was abused-and we kept him then let him go in a game preserve, and a squirrel-which should have been cat food, our cats use to leave them as peace offerings on our porch, and some were still alive. My Aunt worked for Greenpeace, and Funds for Animals, and meet Cleveland Amory-who was a fantastic animal rights advocate-he would go and lay on the baby harp seals, so the hunters couldn't club them to death. He has since died, but he wrote a great book called "Mankind" I drew a calendar for him, back in the 80's, with animals on it. My Aunt also worked for Defenders of Wildlife, and she funded her own organization called End-Trap, to try and band the Leg Hold trap in Vermont. Ellen Jarekie was in her organization-she does the house mouse designs, her stuff is all over the world not, it is in national magazines, I have her autograph, she wrote me a letter once. My Aunt is in Arizona now, working at a parrot hatchery, and takes in tropical birds that people get as pets, and don't realize how long they live,and the amount of work they are. I love all animals. I really hate zoos, it is sad that some kids will never see certain animals, because they are so close to becoming extinct already, that's the only reason a zoo is now a good thing. I have held a baby lion cub before, and I have petted a giraffe up close and personal. I have no fear of any animal, and like I said before, I am one of the biggest anti-hunting people your ever gonna come across.
Posted by RiverPhoenix4life (Member # 1719) on :
I feel the same way Isis. I looovvveeee dogs! All kind and every kind. To me, cats are just way to independednt. Oh and right on deathbystereo, that would be a hoot.
Tootles! Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
I love cats! They are wonderful (sometimes braty) creatures. I have 2 (although I'm allergic) that I love dearly.
Pets in general are a good thing to have. They're there for you when you need them most. They comfort you when your sad, and cuddle when your happy.
I love my 2 cats and my 2 dogs. Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
I consider myself a dog person, but I love cats too. I had a cat growing up that I just adored. I think when you get an animal you should get them young. They get to know you and are more intelligent and better behaved. My own experiences...
Isis...I understand that you are anti-hunting. That's wonderful; we all have different causes we feel strongly about. I remember a few comments you made some time ago that have been really bugging me. Usually I let things that are said on a message board go…but the ones you’ve said have stuck with me. You said awhile ago that if you’ve ever said anything that offended someone to let you know, well here goes…
A while ago you had mentioned that you were anti-hunting and then went on to say that you think anyone who hunts should be harmed themselves. I can’t remember the exact wording, but you were talking about people who harm animals. I think people who abuse animals should be dealt with in the same manner, but I have a different opinion on hunting. Hunting has been around since the beginning of time; it’s how we as a human race survived. Granted that doesn’t mean that we should hunt today given the fact that there are foodstuffs everywhere. I was just offended because most of my family hunts. I do not. I don’t think I could bring myself to shoot an animal, but just because I feel that way doesn’t mean I’m going to keep my family from doing something they enjoy. My whole point is that I was really offended when you made the comment that people who hunt and harm animals should be harmed themselves. All I could think of was the people in my family who you think that because they hunt they need to be hurt. Hunting is a sport and a way to keep certain animal populations in control. I guess for an analogy you could look at hunting the same way as abortion. Some people choose to end a life and others don’t. The problem is that some people insist that their opinion is right and force it on others, that’s when you get the radicals that bomb clinics, etc. I just felt that you were starting down that radical approach by implying that my family should be harmed because they hunt. My family loves animals as well; we practically had a zoo when I was growing up of all kinds of animals. I guess I feel like I’m going on and on now, but I just wanted to get that “off my chest”. I wasn’t going to let it bother me, but for some reason it does. I don’t want to keep anyone from expressing their own opinions, that’s what makes us free, but when you start to talk about others being harmed because of a legal choice they make, I get a little upset. I don’t want to start a flame war so please don’t take offence.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
I don't think you understood exactly what I said. I don't want anyone to get hurt. And my family hunts, my father and my brother do too, and I lived in PA where I never come across anyone who doesn't. I don't want anyone to get hurt, but I know people have been hurt..I have at least 3 friends, who someone in their family was killed in a hunting accident, and I just think that if your out there with a gun, it's not really an accident, cause that's what can happen. And there is no population problem, the game commission stocks the wildlife, for the shear purpose of having something for the hunters to kill. Small game, like pheasants, and grouse, and even deer have been purchased from other states, and the birds are raised in captivity then released in to the wild, because the hunting industry is a billion dollar industry. More deer are killed by cars during hunting season than any time of the year, because hunters stir them up and they are running for their lives. I actually saw a deer run in to my downtown, and jump through a bank window, because it was so scared. It is a very touchy subject, and 1 a have dealt with since I was a kid. I'd go to my best friends houses for supper, and her dad would cook something for dinner, then tell me afterwards I just ate a rabbit or a deer, and they thought that was hilarious. I think kids as young as 9 have been out there with a gun, and that just makes me ill, most men that were honest that I talked to about hunting, told me it was extrememly traumatic for them to actually kill something, that they only did it, cause their dad wanted them too, and it was probably the only thing their Dad ever did with them. I just know around here, guys get drunk, and have guns and are out in the woods shooting at anything that moves, and I am scared all the time, for my husband driving home in the dark, that a deer will jump out and he'll wreck. People have been hit by stray bullets in their own backyards around here. We just don't live in a time period anymore that people should be out killing their own food. I think I might have said that if someone has a heart attack out there because they were too out of shape to begin with..when they are out there to take a life, I can't feel too sorry for that. I don't want that to happen for anyone, but that's because of my belief that they shouldn't be there in the first place. I am sorry if I offended you or anyone else on this subject, I will do that though, when it comes to this one particular subject, I have very extreme views on it. And it is happening right now, we are coming in to deer season, and it puts me on edge very much, and it makes me physically sick. People do hunt that I am around, but they know not to talk to me about it, or I go bananas, and they respect how I feel, even though they want to convince me that what they are doing is justified by something like controllling the population, when I have done so much research on all of this. Or how they are killing off the sick and would I rather they starved to death. The sick are gonna die any way, when some one is out hunting they are looking for the biggest rack, the nicest looking animal they can find, so that theroy doesn't sit right with me either. Archery season just makes me even sicker, to think of an animal running around with a bow stuck in it, and die a horrible death, I can't understand people loving and enjoying doing something like that, that is the part-I guess that freaks me out more than anything, is when someone actually enjoys killing something, not out of something you had to do long ago to stay alive.
Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
You may not want them to get hurt, but your comment as follows is what really got me...
"So, anyone who gets hurt as a result of being involved with something that is harmful to animals, they deserve it, cause they were stupid for doing what they were doing in the first place, and I say that's 1 for the animals."
I'll agree that there are a lot of dumb hunters out there. People who shouldn't have a gun and don't know how to use it. But to use the fact that someone gets hurt as an excuse to blame them for hunting is silly.
I really didn't want to argue about this. I just wanted to let you know that yes you did offend me. I expect to be offended every time I go on the internet, but you just struck a cord when you implied that if someone were to get hurt, while dealing with animals, it's their own dumb fault.
Let's leave our personal issues at home and get back to talking about what we all love...the 80s.
Posted by Ali_with_an_i (Member # 27) on :
My entire family hunts. I eat the products they bring home, but I myself will not hunt.
I live in Wisconsin where hunting is a part and a way of life. The deer population gets WAY out of control sometimes. You'll see deer in your nieghborhood running down your streets and on the interstate.
That's scary because when there are too many deer about, it causes traffic accidents and a few people die each year.
Ssame goes for hunting too. We've already had our first hunting death yesterday.
That's the reason I myself don't hunt. I know around here we have to, only to keep the population down, but a 3 year old was killed. Like Isis, I don't want people to get hurt.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Janette- That statement, I was talking about the Seigfried and Roy tiger incident. Which I totally stand behind what I said. I was talking about animal abuse there, not hunting. Those are 2 separate issues for me. Animal abuse is worse in my book, and I do feel like-good if your abusing an animal, and get hurt in the process-good for ya. That's exactly what I mean. I do not mean if your out there hunting you deserve to die. If my brother was out hunting, and was killed by a bullet meant for a deer, I would not be glad he was killed.It would rip me apart. I would be so angry that he was out there to begin with, and was out their taking a risk with his life, to kill something, and he got killed, for what? He sure doesn't need it for food, because he'll starve to death. That happens all the time. I know in some states they have an over abundance of deer, but that is because of us destroying all the land, and developing it, and killing off all the natural predators, like mountain lions-they are on the endangered species list. I am glad that you said what I said, because at least I understand where it came from, and I wanted to say that I do not want anyone to get hurt, animal or people.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Oh, and yesterday, a guy that works with my husband, he smashed the hood in, on one of their company vehicles, hit a deer- $750 for a new hood, and my husband's boss swerved to keep from hitting a deer just 2 weeks ago, and rolled his Jeep, and landed on the railroad tracks with a train coming, and had to get out, and stop the train, he could have been killed, and no one was injured, they all walk away, except the deer, who was trying to get away from being killed, and got killed anyway, but could have killed a few innocent people in the process. I just don't agree with any of it, and it really bothers me, I won't talk about it anymore on here though, because I know it can be offensive, and I apologize to anyone else if I offended them, it is just something I feel very stongly about.
Posted by deathbystereo80 (Member # 2005) on :
Nature of course got out of balance because of us. But being as it is, I do also see the need, or rather: the sense in shooting some animals. But it becomes a major problem when every person can just go out and have a go at hunting! I think these things need severe regulations. Here, you need a special licence to hunt, which includes very specific laws and codes of behaviour. I can't remember ever hearing about people accidentally killing other people when hunting, things like these would be in the news.
Apart from the whole issue about nature and killing animals, I find this whole discussion about hunting being a threat also to other people kind of strange in a country where every person can own and carry a gun, no matter how ignorant and irresponsible he is!!!!!
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
That is so true... do they let children as young as 9 go out with a big rifle? Cripe I have seen kids that can barely lift the gun, being drug out there in the woods by their parent. I have said it before..I have never seen in other countries the things I do here, with kids getting access to a gun and going in to a school and shooting their teacher or some of their friends. I live with that fear all the time, and there is nothing you can do about it either. You can live your life in your home under your rules, but you can't make others believe in what you do.
Posted by Janette (Member # 252) on :
Oh I see. I’m glad you explained that to me. I was so confused as to why someone with family that hunts as well would feel that strongly towards hunting. I would rather have my family home safe and sound instead of being out hunting, but I can’t stop them from going out. All I can do is pray for a safe return.
As far as a person enjoying to hunt…I asked my husband and father the same question. “Don’t you feel extremely guilty killing an innocent animal?” Their response was that they don’t enjoy the fact that they are killing an animal, but it’s the thrill of the hunt. Obviously they enjoy it otherwise they wouldn’t do it, but I think it’s the thrill. The adrenaline pumps and it’s the whole thrill of “will I get one”. I’m not trying to defend what they do; I’m just trying to explain it. Of course you probably get into those same discussions with your family as well.
Your comments just seem to hit a little too close to home and I think that’s why it bothered me so much. My father had a very good friend who was a great husband and father. He was a Boy Scout leader to a group of young men who were disabled and disobedient to most adults. My dad’s friend gave those boys a chance to learn and grow; he was a very good man. He was healthy, but after a week of hunting he went home and died of a heart attack. It was a huge surprise to all of us because he seemed so strong and healthy. It’s hard for me to understand why someone would be so unsympathetic to the fact that this good man had died because he over exerted himself hunting. It wasn’t that he was unhealthy; it was his time to go home.
I’m sorry to hear about the accidents. We get a lot of them here as well. But how do you know for sure those deer are running from a hunter? Do you hear the shots? It’s harvest time and perhaps the deer are running from the tractors that are clearing the fields. It’s all speculation and to blame every deer running across the street on a hunter is pushing it.
I appreciate your explanation and apology. I don’t want to argue about it at all. I have to agree with you that killing innocent animals isn’t right, hunting is barbaric and should have gone out with the ice age, so to speak.
I agree that nature is out of balance. We as humans can be the biggest threat to animal existence, not only with hunting but also with just existing ourselves. We are taking over the animal’s territories and pushing them out.
I think there needs to be stricter gun control laws, make it harder to get a license to hunt. I read the stories and hear the news; there are idiots out there every day with guns. We need better gun control laws. I feel the same way you do Isis, you can live in your home with your rules but you can’t make others believe what you do. I struggle with that every day. The best you can do is let people know the other side of it (without offending them) and hope that they’ll take what you say to heart. Teach your own children the value of life and hope that the other children that are around you will learn the same.
Sorry this was so long. Have a great and peaceful holiday.
Posted by isis9968 (Member # 1780) on :
Janette, I understand completely what your saying, and you did answer yourself when you said when people say they don't enjoy hunting, they like the thrill of it, they just said they like it, and how is killing anything thrilling? If you have compassion for life, it would both your tremendously. I can't see shooting something and watching it die, be thrilling..I guess that's another reason why I hate all the shows like Fear Factor...I can't understand why an animal rights group isn't all over that show, for making people eat different animals body organs-for what?? That show should be banned. There is no purpose for any of that. I am just glad that they stopped making students disect animals in sciene, I remember we had to do a fetal pig in high school, and I couldn't do it, I started gagging and thought I would throw up. You can learn a persons organs from a book and pictures...that whole science project process, never left my mind. It was so gross. My son said they stopped making them use real animals and now they have plastic frogs that look real, but as I have said before-it is pretty much another waste of time, when is knowing the inside's of a frog ever gonna come in handy in life?
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