I havent been a member on this forum for very long but i think its great and totally enjoy readin' and replyin'to what other members have to say.So i was thinkin'why not have a proper chatroom so people can reply quicker to topics? naturally,for all i know there may already be one and im just being a dumbass for not finding it! what do you think dudes? (about the chatroom,not me being a dumbass).
Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
That's a great idea, Smayt
I'm sure there are other sites with chatrooms about eighties movies etc, but I feel like coming home here. All the people are very nice and helpful (wich you can't always say on other sites )
So NO? you're no dumbass In fact I'm gonna rate you for this magnificent proposal.
Posted by paulshrimpton (Member # 1022) on :
The one real reason for this is..... cost
The site is extremely well visited, and one reason for this is that it's completely non-commercial. The only money coming in comes from (a) a fraction of a penny for each click that takes you to another site (either to buy a dvd or to see other information), and.... well that's it, actually. So Nick (the Site Webmaster) is keeping the site going from this, but there's nothing left for enhancements like a chatroom. The thing is, if we went more commercial and got sponsored, the site would lose it's independence and become just like any other movie website.
Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
Dude,i dont know what to say.those were kind words indeed.glad you liked the idea and i totally agree with your comments about this site,it is very cool Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
That's a shame
I would hate it if this site would get commercial. I'd rather pay membership or something like that.
Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
my last message was for TKO by the way and not paulshrimpton who suddenly put a downer on things,the realist.I suddenly have stars next to my dude-ship.how very cool.thanx TKO.
Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
Your welcome!
Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
Just kidding Shrimpmeister.still a sad sad shame though just like TKO said. i blame the damn dirty apes.
Posted by paulshrimpton (Member # 1022) on :
And I don't even get to be a Dude.... Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
Dude you're a moderator. you cant have everything.put a bra on your head and we'll see what we can do....haha.(i know its the wrong topic).
Posted by Nick (Member # 404) on :
Yes, It's those damn filthy apes...
A chatroom would use a decent amount of extra bandwidth --bandwidth that we can ill afford at the moment.
This site already uses a lot of processing power, has it's own server (which I had to provide) and uses a ton of bandwidth and takes lots of time to update and manage.
Normally, as you know, by now it would be plastered in ad's, spam and pop-ups etc --all in a desperate effort to recover some of the cost of running it.
But I hate all that. People lose sight of what the site is there for in the rush to reclaim the costs and end up driving all the visitors away...
So, for now, I'm fronting it, spam-free -with the help of some very kind folks who host the server that I provide for us and don't grumble when our bandwidth useage is excessive.
Of course, the whole thing costs money. Money that the site hasn't got a hope of repaying.
We get a few pennies only when someone buys something via our links, so rather than a membership fee (which is unfair on people who only want to look up the odd movie), I encourage you to please order your DVD's through our links if you can.
You get a good price, we get a tiny contribution and if they ever added up to much more than about $10 a month, then we could add some of these great features -and then pay for the bandwidth they might use...
-Nick
PS: Paul, check your profile. You have a new title Posted by paulshrimpton (Member # 1022) on :
Bless you, my son.
Posted by Samurai Sweetie (Member # 1529) on :
Chatrooms are always cool, there are plenty of free chat scripts out there that can be intergrated into an existing forum, but if Bandwidth is the main deter, then I say forego it for now. Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
Nice to see that the chatroom idea created a good chat in itself.Shame it cant happen yet,but i agree with the reasons Nick gave.Ive only been loggin' onto this site for a short while and already its my favourite.I love movies and this is the best place to talk about them,plus im havin' a great time too! The other users seem to have a great sense of humour(kinda' like me )and that makes this forum fun to be part of.Im glad im along for this ride dudes!!! By the way,I see the Shrimpmeister has been elevated to God-hood! What did he do to achieve this? I hope it involved his head and a bra...! Posted by paulshrimpton (Member # 1022) on :
I'm damn glad there are no webcams around... Posted by The Wizard (Member # 533) on :
You don't need much bandwidth to run an IRC server, even one hosted on a modem connection is fast enough to allow quite a lot of people to chat in real time.
Besides you could always use the 80snostalgia.com IRC server
(The Wizard, ex-IRCaholic)
Posted by Nick (Member # 404) on :
Hmmmm... Interesting. Maybe you can advise us/me Wiz?
Posted by Orrickman (Member # 1450) on :
I would also love to have a chatroom but I totally agree with the the actual policy of this website.
This is without a doubt the best '80s website on the Internet and I wouldn't like it to change a bit. Now that I know I can help by buying the DVD's using your links, you can count on me on that matter.
For what it's worth, thank you very much for this magnificent website...
Bye!
Posted by The Wizard (Member # 533) on :
Nick, I don't know how much you know about IRC so I'll start at the beginning (others who know nothing about it will probably also be interested):
IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat, it's been around since the dawn of time (almost), the predecessor to webchat (*spit* I hate webchat stuff).
It's a text based chat system where users use an IRC program like mIRC (http://www.mirc.com, the most used program) to connect to a server (which could be a single server or many servers linked together to balance the load).
'Rooms' are called channels, for example #pc or #games and anything you type into the channel can be seen by all in that channel, you can be in as many channels as you want at the same time (just have many windows on screen), or you can message individuals privately without even being in a channel.
There are several status levels a user can have, the most basic one is no status (you're just there to chat), an OP which is a channel operator who has the ability to kick users out of the channel, ban users, set the channel modes and give/take operator status from other users. There's also a sysop level who can give themselves channel operator status in any channel they're in and has access to server settings.
There are three main ways of gaining channel operator status, if you're the first one in a channel you get OPs or an OP has to give you OPs or you're a sysop.
There are two types of user, human and bot, a bot can be setup to administer a channel, give OPs to users who have a user/pass with it, automatically kickban users you don't want in the channel, but they're not there for the nasty stuff as they can have fun stuff like games built in - fastest one to type the answer to... etc.
IRC servers are freeware, no licence or cost to use them (other than the machine you run it on), and they don't take up much bandwidth as it's just text flying around. I've run IRC servers on my Amigas fine in the past when playing around with linking two servers together.
Posted by Samurai Sweetie (Member # 1529) on :
I actually hate irc/mirc , I only use it as a last resort.
And you do have to pay to get the program to run it, unless you go and download a cracked version. Posted by Colt (Member # 1546) on :
You're just anti-mirc I have mIRC too (although i prefer java chat which looks cooler ), but on mIRC i can do some more stuff and join different servers. I don't have a cracked version, but i entered a serial number i got from somewhere and i can't remember if there were any limitations before i entered the number maybe there was a 30 days limit or something... http://www.mirc.com/ "you can download mIRC and try it out freely for 30 days to evaluate it" yeah, 30 days only... =\
Posted by Samurai Sweetie (Member # 1529) on :
quote:Originally posted by Colt: You're just anti-mirc I have mIRC too (although i prefer java chat which looks cooler ), but on mIRC i can do some more stuff and join different servers. I don't have a cracked version, but i entered a serial number i got from somewhere and i can't remember if there were any limitations before i entered the number maybe there was a 30 days limit or something... http://www.mirc.com/ "you can download mIRC and try it out freely for 30 days to evaluate it" yeah, 30 days only... =\
=D+ that's right, I despise that text based dinosaur I like java chat's, ones where you get emoticons, and avatars, etc., and all that cool mirc stuff is there too(minus the spambots), you just have to pay for a chat membership. Posted by The Wizard (Member # 533) on :
Some of us don't even need an IRC program to chat on IRC, I can do it with nothing more than a telnet program, typing in raw IRC codes Well I used to be able to, been literally years since I last did that so I'm probably a bit rusty now.
My copy of mIRC is an old one which isn't registered and doesn't have a 30day timeout.
Posted by Nick (Member # 404) on :
Thanks for the explanantion wiz. I remember now using IRC in the real early days. It was kinda cool at the time to chat to people alll round the world.
What worries me is that bad folks might descend upon us and be rude and stuff, so we'd have to appoint a whole load of you folks as admins and stuff...
I'll speak with the sys-admin folks and see what we can do with regard to loading the right modules... Posted by Samurai Sweetie (Member # 1529) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nick: What worries me is that bad folks might descend upon us and be rude and stuff, so we'd have to appoint a whole load of you folks as admins and stuff...
Unfortunately that is the one main drawback of alot of chatrooms, people come in just to make trouble, and with mirc/irc, there are also spambots that visit every room and just spam the users and channel with Porn links and other useless links.
There are some chatrooms and chat scripts that can make channels/rooms exclusive to the specific website it's linked to, you might wanna check into that, but still if someone comes to the main Fast-rewind site they can come to chat from the link there.
So the only real way to keep rude people out would be to appoint several room Ops. Admins, etc. so that if someone needs to be kicked or banned, someone will be around to do it. Posted by The Wizard (Member # 533) on :
Samurai, your experiences of spambots etc. suggest you've only been on the big IRC networks where that kind of thing is rampant (last time I was on one anyway) where there are several servers (and hence owners) and admins who on some situations have to agree on things before action gets taken.
With a single private server there's one owner who ultimately has more control over it than the admins on multiple server networks. And being a small server it doesn't have any spambot attraction as they only target the main IRC networks, I've never seen one on the 80snostalgia.com server.
I know this site is proud of it's 'no foul language' situation and I know Nick is keen to keep that status with a chat system, it's possible to setup a bot to automatically kick users out of channels (or even off the server) if they swear. With the logging capabilities IRC servers have you could then tell who the troublemakers are (kicked out of channels/off the server repeatedly wuold show up) and ban their IP addresses from even connecting to the server (k-lines).
The bottom line is an single private server is a world away from a network of servers, my experience of the 80snostalgia.com one has been nothing but positive.
If you do setup a server, please don't ask me to be an OP or admin as I sound like I know what I'm doing, been there done that, helped adminsiter a large channel on IRCnet years ago and I ultimately screwed up - that phrase "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely" is so true Posted by Samurai Sweetie (Member # 1529) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Wizard: Samurai, your experiences of spambots etc. suggest you've only been on the big IRC networks where that kind of thing is rampant (last time I was on one anyway) where there are several servers (and hence owners) and admins who on some situations have to agree on things before action gets taken.
With a single private server there's one owner who ultimately has more control over it than the admins on multiple server networks. And being a small server it doesn't have any spambot attraction as they only target the main IRC networks, I've never seen one on the 80snostalgia.com server.
I know this site is proud of it's 'no foul language' situation and I know Nick is keen to keep that status with a chat system, it's possible to setup a bot to automatically kick users out of channels (or even off the server) if they swear. With the logging capabilities IRC servers have you could then tell who the troublemakers are (kicked out of channels/off the server repeatedly wuold show up) and ban their IP addresses from even connecting to the server (k-lines).
The bottom line is an single private server is a world away from a network of servers, my experience of the 80snostalgia.com one has been nothing but positive.
Actually no, I've encountered this on many irc/mirc servers, even the small and privately owned ones, maybe 80snostlagia is different and has some kind of filter in effect, I've never been there so I wouldn't know Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
is this still a conversation about chat-rooms? 'cos with all this technical talk,i thought it was stolen plans to build a new DEATH STAR....!
Posted by Nick (Member # 404) on :
"I told you she would never conciously betray the rebellion..." Posted by Smayt Gateford (Member # 1500) on :
Isn't it weird that Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee were always linked together because of the Hammer Horror movies.And even now after Cushing's death,they are still linked because of the Star Wars movies.Funny that!! I was going to reply with a Star Wars quote like Nick but I thought i'd say something interesting instead(isn't it?). Oh go on then,a Cushing Star Wars quote....(with exasperation) ''Evacuate! I think you over estimate their chances'' thank you and goodnight.
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By the way,I see the Shrimpmeister has been elevated to God-hood! What did he do to achieve this? I hope it involved his head and a bra...! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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, I only use it as a last resort. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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I have mIRC too (although i prefer java chat which looks cooler ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
), but on mIRC i can do some more stuff and join different servers. I don't have a cracked version, but i entered a serial number i got from somewhere ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
maybe there was a 30 days limit or something... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
