As I look back on my time here, I think most of use came together to discuss movies and the ones we collect. We talked of VHS, DVD as it happened and lived through HDDVD vs Bluray. As smartphones and iphones have taken over society from 2009ish on.
I love collecting movies, but as I have found as a father, I am trying to keep less crap in the house, and my son in the past 3 years has put a beating on DVD's and Bluray's with scratches galore. This has caused me to fall in love with .... Digital copies!!! I could write a dissertation on how they work if you are interested but for the moment, I have only been buying movies if the Digital Copy is sold.
I basically just use Apple TV and Vudu through my Wifi Bluray Player.
My family gets to watch movies at home and on the road. I don't want to fight anyone for broken discs. It's a Win-Win for everyone.
Does anyone else do the same thing? Or does everyone not bother? If you have no desire to keep digital copies or you aren't going to use them, send me a direct message and I would love to have them.
That might seem desperate, but it's an honest question.
Anyway, Digital Copies. They are worth it. for me, Vudu over Apple TV everytime. Vudu works on all devices, itunes movies aren't alwyas there.
We are DEVO
Posted by Crash (Member # 7484) on :
I think that I may have posted this before, but I have been saying for the past few years that Bluray and DVDs are going the way of music CDs. As much as it's fun to collect them with cover art and special edition liner notes, neat boxes, and little booklets, let's face it: It's a dying technology. Quite frankly, I don't see Netflix sending discs through the mail much longer. Everything will be digital soon. Bluray, which always was the real film buff's preferred platform, will go the way of the laserdisc. It's a dead-end format. I, too, am not buying more Bluray disks. Heck, I don't buy many DVDs. They just take up too much space.
On a more positive note, never in my wildest dreams did I ever see myself in a world where I could go home after work, fire up the Roku, and watch just about anything that I wanted. There is no more waiting around for a VHS release or tracking down some dodgy PAL conversion of a foreign film. It's amazing. Stuff that I never imagined would ever be on DVD/Bluray/digital not only gets released but gets a special edition. (I'm looking at Jess Franco's output, for example.) Having lived in a time when you saw stuff in theatres or waited and hoped to catch a showing on one of four TV channels, modern technology really does amazing.
Now someone out there please give Lady Beware, Call Me, and a bunch of other orphaned 80s films official releases! Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
Crash, I agree. I have been buying more Digital Music just to save room and $$$. I wish I could have a talk with 18 year old me.
WE are DEVO
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
quote:Originally posted by Crash:
On a more positive note, never in my wildest dreams did I ever see myself in a world where I could go home after work, fire up the Roku, and watch just about anything that I wanted.
Yeah but crash you could do the same with the old Sony betamax- watch whatever,whenever
Collecting digital copies on a hard drive just doesn't have that same appeal to me,plus my few experiences of streaming so far have been slightly underwhelming to say the least,but each to there own and for convenience sake and for those that have limited space for many it must feel like a godsend!
[ 09. December 2015, 22:54: Message edited by: the young warrior ]
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
I don't collect any digital movies or tv shows, but I do buy some music once in awhile for my iPod. I think with YouTube, Pandora, Slacker, etc. you can listen to pretty much anything now.
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
No digital copies for me, obviously.. Not now, not ever !
I disagree with the assumption that DVD and Blu-ray are dying formats. I mean, didn't they say the same about vinyl records in the late 80's ? And look at what happened : 25 years down the road they're back in style, with even the mainstream public embracing the format that was once deemed obsolete !
Posted by gordongecko (Member # 4685) on :
Johnny Roarke - I was just going to touch on vinyl. I don't see physical music/movies going away completely. I think the big thing is there will be both a digital and physical copy of the item. Any new Vinyl I purchase, I want it to come with a digital copy. That way I can enjoy it on the road or on my record player. Now I'm not fully confident in DVDs being as popular as vinyl down the road. Vinyl brings a distinct sound to music that digital doesn't have. I think it also is more interactive (having to flip the record etc) and forces people to listen to an entire album, not just your favorite songs. I'm not quite sure what you'd be missing out on with digital movies vs hard copy..... Are VHS tapes coming back yet? They offered some glorious grainy pictures, that I could see people wanting again. Bring them back to their youth.
Posted by Logan 5 (Member # 1467) on :
I too, am a born collector. Recently I've become addicted to those Japanese mini LP CD's which replicate LP's but on a smaller scale. You can download these things, but there's something nice about owning a physical copy of something you love.
Posted by Bernie_Lomax (Member # 8571) on :
I think having all these technological conveniences makes movies less intriguing. Now because you can watch what you want when you want it seems less interesting but back years ago it was like "Hey, The Temple of Doom" is on tonight at 8:30, we can't miss it".
It's like I don't even know why I have a DVD collection because I don't watch them. I want the next DVD that I will watch once and then place in the drawer with the rest and won't watch it again. There is no excitement any more because you can have what you want, when you want it. Same goes for digital - the more accessibility = less interest - this is for me anyway.
Posted by Bernie_Lomax (Member # 8571) on :
quote:Originally posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless: No digital copies for me, obviously.. Not now, not ever !
I disagree with the assumption that DVD and Blu-ray are dying formats. I mean, didn't they say the same about vinyl records in the late 80's ? And look at what happened : 25 years down the road they're back in style, with even the mainstream public embracing the format that was once deemed obsolete !
I was shocked when I walked into a store last month and saw that you could buy brand new vinyl albums of Led Zeppelin II and many other albums from the past. This is awesome. I love the sound of vinyl records playing. Nothing beats it.
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
Since last year they've been re-releasing the entire Led Zeppelin catalogue on multiple formats in different editions.
Of course most of these albums were excellent to begin with, but the new "Super Deluxe" editions sure do look impressive !
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
Is there much of a price difference now between vinyl and CD as I purchased the new def leppard album on CD the other week from a local hmv store for 7.99 UK pounds and then went to look upstairs and out of the corner of my eye saw the new enya vinyl release and i'm sure it was getting on for close to 20 UK pounds.
Does this big price gap between vinyl and cd sound about right?
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
That's one thing I was going to mention johnny was you know you mentioned that book - vhs video cover art did you ever get to pick up a copy,I haven't yet but I found this page by page video review of it on YouTube and it does look pretty cool - https://youtu.be/Gb8_s0fokKc Posted by Logan 5 (Member # 1467) on :
quote:Does this big price gap between vinyl and cd sound about right?
Vinyl definitely has a big price markup - it's considered 'for collectors / audiophiles', so they charge much more for it than CD's.
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
quote:Originally posted by the young warrior: That's one thing I was going to mention johnny was you know you mentioned that book - vhs video cover art did you ever get to pick up a copy,I haven't yet but I found this page by page video review of it on YouTube and it does look pretty cool - https://youtu.be/Gb8_s0fokKc
Yes, i have this !
The sleeves differ from what we used to have here in The Netherlands, but fact remains : This book oozes nostalgia !
Excellent purchase, and a must-have for anyone in the UK !
I bet it would look good underneath your christmas tree, Warrior. Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
quote:Originally posted by the young warrior: Does this big price gap between vinyl and cd sound about right?
Like Logan said, plus these new (re-)releases are usually pressed on heavyweight vinyl. It's quality stuff !
Posted by the young warrior (Member # 9554) on :
I'll definitely look at picking up the vhs cover art book johnny probably early in the new year,I'll let you know when I get it.
I know a lot of people argue that vinyl has a more natural sound than CD,what do you guys think do you think there's a noticeable difference?
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
There's definitely a difference.. although i'm not the right person to ask, because my hearing is not what it used to be.
Since i've been stuck with that awful ringing noise in my head, CDs don't sound that attractive to me anymore. When i listen to CDs, i turn the treble on my amp or mixer waaaaay down into the minus. Otherwise it sounds too shrill for my ears. I don't experience such problems with listening to music on vinyl though.
Posted by Bernie_Lomax (Member # 8571) on :
My mate who used to be a sound engineer said that the sound waves for vinyl are in the shape of an arc whereas for CD's the shape of the sound waves are like a series of steps. So it seems that scientifically perhaps that vinyl does produce better quality sound.
Whether all that's true or not I can't say but it sounds logical. I do prefer listening to vinyl though, not that I have done so in years. My last turntable had a meltdown and have not gotten around to getting a new one.
Johnny, tinnitus?
Posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless (Member # 9826) on :
Unfortunately, yes..
caused by nothing other than too much loud music.. so yes, i was indeed one of the stupid ones. Posted by kevdugp73 (Member # 5978) on :
I unfortunately maintain the collector gene that still wants hard copies. I only collect 80's movies and have about 500+ DVDs, and, although I resisted Blu-ray for a while, I'm soon to round the 100 mark (again, only 80's). I do struggle with the space, yet, my Dad built me a giant floor to ceiling entertainment center which has deep cupboards, so this contains (and hides) my collection really well. I recently went through a spell where I was contemplating getting rid of lots (I have many 80's movies that are horrible and I'll never watch again...I wanted to filter those out), but over the holidays, got to watch a string of 80's movies which has re-sparked my interest. Rambling a bit now, but will end with saying I also struggled with loving the movies but with two young kids, never had time to watch....as my critters are getting older, finally starting to find a little more time for me....so for now...cherishing my hard copies!
Posted by cindymancini (Member # 679) on :
I Heart Physical Media!
Don't get me wrong (like the Pretenders said), mp3's and digital files have a place but ain't nothin' like the real thing.
I want cover art and liner notes.
Yeah, I'm old. So be it.
Posted by Logan 5 (Member # 1467) on :
quote:I Heart Physical Media!
I want cover art and liner notes.
Me too!
quote:Yeah, I'm old. So be it.
Like a fine wine...
Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
Devolution here,
I agree owning the content and holding it makes me happy too. But until they find a way to make a house bigger that doesn't cost a second mortgage I will take free and low cost music from the google play store. I still buy the stuff I really want, especially Blu-ray.
Cindy - we are all old now. Man....
We are DEVO
Posted by Nostalgic for the '80's (Member # 37454) on :
Big fan of watching movies/TV shows on DVD & Blu-ray. I got my first DVD player in 2003, and credit that for making me the movie fan that I am today. Prior to getting the player, I was only a casual movie fan - but, now, I'm much more hardcore - and, via the player I was able to discover a lot of movies/TV shows that I had never seen before - or even been aware of.
I also stream to some extent, and have been doing so for about five years. I see no problem with streaming & also watching physical media - there's no reason you can't do both. Plus, there are some movies/TV shows out there that are only available via streaming - especially some Netflix TV shows.
I still definitely prefer physical media, especially Blu-ray's. The Picture Quality (PQ) is definitely fantastic with most Blu's.
However, note there are disadvantages to DVD's/Blu's at times: In some cases the disks may be scratched, so you'll be unable to see the film due to it freezing in certain parts - or, it'll skip & so you won't be able to see the entire film. Blu's are less prone to skipping/freezing (when compared to DVD's) because Blu's have a protective coating - but, this still happens with Blu's to some extent.
However, this skipping/freezing issue only really happens with DVD's/Blu's that are used; it doesn't typically happen with brand new disks.
However, I definitely think a lot of our preferences for physical media are generational. I was recently talking to a 20-something movie fan, and they mentioned that they didn't even have a DVD or Blu-ray player. They stream everything. I guess that's the trend now, at least with some people.
Posted by Crash (Member # 7484) on :
I grew up in the 60s and 70s where if you didn't catch a film in theatres or on TV, you could go years without ever seeing it. Today just about everything is immediately available, DVD or streaming, which is wonderful. I do feel a little sad, though, about losing the fun of the hunt trying to track down and see those obscure films that you had heard about back in the day. My favorite film buff story is about the guy who drove a hundred miles with a VCR to a motel to record Lemora: A Child's Tale of the Supernatural, an amazingly obscure vampire film from the 70s, off of late night TV. Today you can buy a special edition or stream Lemora. There's no challenge in finding it anymore. (By the way, I saw it on one of those weird, rare late night showings back in the 70s and wasn't impressed. Upon revisiting it through the special edition, I now think that it's a small gem.)
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