I have always said that someone on that show or other shows like it, was going to do something like this...there are so many people on that show that they exploit...they know they aren't wrapped tight in the head, and they cut them up and make fun of them.
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Posted by kevdugp73 (Member # 5978) on :
A shame....the show is very distasteful in their editing and portrayal of individuals with obvious mental health issues. It's kind of like a form of bullying, in their encouragement for thousands of people to laugh at, or poke fun at one individual. Playing with lives which are very frail...all to make some money money money. Shameful.
Posted by Stitch Groover (Member # 2895) on :
I don't think the show exploits them, I think after so many years on the air, people should know how they might be portrayed. And if they are a little touched in the head like this woman was (have you seen her audition, it was like a trainwreck), her family and/or friends should have kept her away.
These people want to be on tv, and the only way they will get on there is to turn up to Idol auditions behaving crazy, and if Idol shows them as crazy it's not Idol's fault!
Posted by kevdugp73 (Member # 5978) on :
I agree to an extent Stitch, but for me, there's an obvious difference between those who are obviously "show boating" and "semi sane", vs those who have serious mental health problems. And as for their family keeping them away, a lot of times, their family may have the same mental health problems and/or have distanced themselves, and/or have no legal control over their grown children. To add, my comments are unfortunately hypicritical...as, despite my opinion...I continue to watch the show every year Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I totally agree with Kevdugp73. You do see the parents encouraging them, and they are messed up too....if you look at the parents...then alot of times it explains why the kids are such a mess....and every time I see the general public of America on this show, it scares the living heck out of me, that these people are actually walking the streets, and aren't getting professional mental help.
I watched this girl's audition tape...it made me mad, because it didn't take a panel of "experts" to know that girl was not the right "type" they are looking for, or know that she couldn't sing 1 note....they pushed her through to be on TV, because of the weirdness of what she was wearing, because of her obsession with Paula- you could tell Paula Abdul was totally uneasy about the whole thing-but at least she tries to be polite. Simon Cowell is so rude, he was making fun of her braces...and her clothing.
There's one thing to have to say to someone that they might not have a career in this field...but steer them in another direction...don't crush their lives.
They giggle and act like kids...and that isn't funny.
I was thinking about this last night, after I heard about it.
I watched American Idol for the past 2 seasons, and my mom and I said that we don't know whatever happens to those people. The ones who make it to the top...you never hear from them again....a few like Carrie Underwood and Jordin Sparks and Clay Aiken. But...what happened to David Cook, David Archuletta, Taylor Hicks and so many others that seemed so popular.
It's like there's such a shortage of singers today that have any talent at all, you'd think when one comes along they would be everywhere, but they can't even get 1 hit song out of anybody.
I was thinking about music the other day...and personally I absolutely hate Hip Hop, and I wish it would go away...it is totally devoid of emotion-I can't relate to that junk.
I really don't see how American Idol is actually improving the music industry.
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
Let's see- Jordin Sparks and Taylor Hicks both tanked after releasing albums. Not sure what David Cook is doing now- did he go on tour yet? David Archuleta= Non-talent. He sucked, the only people who really liked him were the teeny-bopper 12 and 13 year olds, and they have probably moved on to the next "big thing". Ruben Studdard hasn't done too well either. I thought that Breakin movie was all about hip hop music? I have never seen it.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
It is about Rap Music and Pop Music....which to me is actually alot different than Hip Hop Music.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Lotsa similarities in rap and hip hop....
Posted by Mr. Jack Burton (Member # 4673) on :
quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: Lotsa similarities in rap and hip hop....
Guns, blunts, big *** girls.. It's all good!! Posted by Stitch Groover (Member # 2895) on :
Jordin Sparks is really popular here, she has had a number one single and a couple of top ten songs too. I'm glad Taylor Hicks has vanished off the face of the earth, he wasn't really a singer, just an entertainer. He should do kids birthday parties.
I still don't have any sympathy for people who complain about being embarassed on Idol. They have to sign waivers before they perform, that allow Idol to show anything that may be embarassing.
Kevdug, it's true that families can't always stop them from auditioning and making fools of themselves, but these are often the same families and friends who lie to them and say that they are great singers, feeding their unfortunate self delusions.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Do you really think they are lying? I don't always think so...I think alot of people don't know what a good singer is "suppose" to sound like....maybe compared to them singing, they do think the other person is good.
Even if they have to sign waivers...if your mentally ill to that degree....are those people capable of understanding that they are being made fun of...or do they just want the attention...and it doesn't matter to them.
I know there's no way I'd try out for something like that.....but someone who is oblivious to thinking "normally"....there is no way to know what's going on in their mind, so it's easy to say for me not to do it, but I can see where they might not understand what's happening. I hope that makes sense.
People that absolutely know that someone is unstable...are mean, for allowing someone to be mad fun of.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Would they actually need American Idol to be noticed if they had that good of a singing voice in the first place?
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Well...since they interview hundreds of thousands of people-and ALOT of those people keep coming back year after year, and then spend a ton of money to get to the auditions, they sleep on the sidewalks, and go through all of that...and then barely anybody ever gets a hit record. That is what is sad. That there are hundreds of thousands of people ...and some can sing...but nobody makes a hit record.
Carrie Underwood's one song ...the one about "Before He Cheats"....about her smashing in his headlights and ripping his car apart...that is like condoning vandelism...if someone cheats on you..you dump them...who needs that...you don't go commit a felony. That's the kind of junk they sing about today.
[ 14. November 2008, 05:07: Message edited by: ISIS ]
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Listen to the song...or better yet.. watch the scene in Breakin where Ozone takes Kelly to watch the one Breakdancer dance to the song "Move Your Body"...the song and scene have a meaning to it, and it's nothing like what I have heard playing on the radio today.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Just because she sings about it doesn't mean she condones it. "Move Your Body" could be sexually suggestive to someone if they have too much time on their hands and read into things too much since we are playing the role of Goody 2 Shoes. Every song ever made and current songs being made have meaning to someone. The particular one you mentioned didn't to me because I don't live in an 80's vaccuum but oh well......
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Then what are you doing here?
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I've actually met some pretty nice people on here. One can still enjoy the 80s, but I also enjoyed the 90s and modern times without living in a vaccuum realizing that I couldn't go back. To sum it up, why did you come back? You seem to have a habit of taking new topics, bending it into a tangent that has nothing to do with the topic and turning it into something about yourself in novel format. You should join a support group if you honestly crave attention that badly. I have no problem at all with someone's opinion as everyone is entitled to one but the generalized, biased way you always present yours pretty much demeans anyone who doesn't go along with your line of thought. It's like the time you said something along the lines of all modern actresses being trashy or something to that effect. Sure I think that about alot of past and present actresses but I'm not gonna vocalize it and call names because I have the common courtesy to realize that some folks like some modern actresses and respect other's opinions. We are all getting older and all enjoyed the 80s but it seems some people still have the mentality of a child when it comes to manners and a general respect of other's opinions. Sure I don't like some of the movies you like but I honestly don't have the amount of time on my hands that you do to trash any and everyone else's opinions. That being said people would probably respect you more on here and in life if you'd stop forcing your opinions down everyone's throat and having the attitude that your opinion and no one else's counts combined with a respect for everyone else......
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Posted by Mr. Jack Burton (Member # 4673) on :
In the words of Homer Jay Simpsons entrance music when he was a pro boxer: WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS? WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS?!!
Come on folks, chill!!!! Where is the love?? Hmmm? Where??
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Posted by kevdugp73 (Member # 5978) on :
Two good people with differences of opinion, that's all....
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Well...I am not sure how I turned American Idol in to a topic about myself.
Motley-nobody told you to come on here and comment on American Idol....
For someone who doesn't think I should be on here, why do you constantly come on every single topic that I say something on...and give me your 2 cents worth...???
If I want to talk about how the 80s was in comparison to every single thing on TV today-that actually relates to this entire messageboard...and if you don't want to read what I have to say...that's real easy...don't follow me around.
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
All I have to say is this....If this Social Forum gets closed again because of bickering, I'm sure that I won't be the only one devastated.
Posted by Mr. Jack Burton (Member # 4673) on :
quote:Originally posted by 80'sRocked: All I have to say is this....If this Social Forum gets closed again because of bickering, I'm sure that I won't be the only one devastated.
Amen brother.. Please guys, think of the children, won't somebody please think of the children!!! Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I don't follow you around lol where did you get that? I comment on topics I see fit to comment on until the topic gets off of topic like this one already has. The topic was American Idol and low and behold halfway through it turned into a bashing modern music thread starring yourself. I'm going to go ahead and be the better person (as that's obvious see no comments about me, what I did, what I miss,me, me, me, etc...) and end the bickering here.....
Posted by Kash (Member # 297) on :
GETTING BACK ON TOPIC
Sad news, there is a discernable difference between people with serious psychological issues (like this poor woman) and bad singers who don’t know they suck; the latter deserve ridicule, the former don’t for obvious reasons. In some way, these programmes are the modern day equivalent of medieval freak shows; where hopeful, often hapless, peasants line up in their thousands to be mocked by multi-millionaires.
I only used to watch ‘Idol’ for Simon Cowell’s one-liners and putdowns, but in about 10-15 years the world will look back and wonder; what kind of degenerate society used to exalt such programming (i.e. reality TV in general) to the levels of popularity its achieved?
Has anyone here seen ‘Good Night & Good Luck’? Ed Murrow’s closing speech in that movie pretty much sums up my views on TV.
Well presented Kash. It seems modern TV is quickly becoming the video form of the likes of the National Enquirer. TMZ is a prime example. Some of these programs, magazines, and paparazzi are literally ruining people's lives....and society is so eager to watch? Has modern society become a majority of insecure people who need to watch the ridicule of others...so their own lives don't look so bad? This is merely a form of bullying, with the targets consistently crying for help, often not taken seriously enough until someone is serioulsy hurt or ends up dead. The man who was ridiculed on the "Sally Jessy" talkshow and ended up killing himself was a prime example...and yet it all continues. I'm really hopeful that I don't go to Heaven too soon....rest assured that when I do...it's unlikely I'll see some of these buggers up there. Wait a sec....too deep? Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Kash-what was that from? That was interesting.
That's exactly what I am talking about, and what Kevdugp73 said.
Do you guys remember when that man killed that other man....because he was made fun of on the Jenny Jones show?? There was a man brought on the show ...he was told someone had a crush on him, he thought it was a woman, and they set him up....but when he got on the show...it was another man who had a crush on him. The one who was put on the spot...was not gay....and he felt like the world thought he was, and he was so devastated by it...that he shot and killed the man who had a crush on him.
It was a horrible story.
I think people forget these things all the time...because it has become so common...but it happens constantly. That's why I have said I hate the news.
My son is sitting at home cause he's so scared of someone coming in to the school and shooting him. They have had bomb threats...and my friend is the school principal-he just had to go turn a kid in for vandelism. It is craziness.
I honestly think that when you find anyone even semi normal out there in the world, you ought to hang on to them like they were made of gold.
I thought about the girl from American Idol...and how Paula Abdul was out at an Award Show that night...and this girl was sitting in a car alone...thinking about ending her life, and then she did it. Her mom reported her missing, and told the police to go looking around Paula Abdul's house...and there that girl was idolizing Paula Abdul, and yet if you look at Paula...her real life is a mess...she's on many prescription medications, and has had eating disorders, and she hasn't had any relationships with men that turned out great...her own life is a mess too. But...people don't see that about celebrities...they think because they are rich and good looking that their lives are to be envied, and they aren't. There are regular people out there that are doing much better than most celebrities are.
It is all messed up.
Posted by Stitch Groover (Member # 2895) on :
Even after Owen Wilson's attempt at taking his own life, the paparazzi haven't backed of celebrities. I'm so glad I'm not famous - but I wouldn't mind the rich part!
There was a very popular actor here, Mark Preistley, who killed himself a couple of months ago, he starred in "All Saints", one of the top TV dramas and his character was in the middle of a major story line. Anyway, he booked into a hotel and jumped off the balcony. It turns out he had depression. Just like a good proportion of us regular schmo's!
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: I don't follow you around lol where did you get that? I comment on topics I see fit to comment on until the topic gets off of topic like this one already has. The topic was American Idol and low and behold halfway through it turned into a bashing modern music thread starring yourself. I'm going to go ahead and be the better person (as that's obvious see no comments about me, what I did, what I miss,me, me, me, etc...) and end the bickering here.....
I totally agree with you here. Why does every topic get turned into something along the lines of "The 80's were absolutely wonderful, nothing ever went wrong, every movie and actor and singer was talented and beautiful. Anyting past 1989 is no good. The singers suck, the actors are ugly and actresses are tramps." Oh, and as far as those psychos who try out for American Idol, and have no talent and know it- they are only there for one thing- attention. They have narcissistic personalities, which means no matter what, they can only think of themselves. Most actors behave this way, but when you see them on camera or being interviewed by one of those tabloid tv shows, they put on a good act at behaving like us normal people.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
It is funny...but I think I post more than anyone else does...on 00's movies...and I post about things going on in today's time period, more than anyone else does-I post more than anyone else about the 70s stuff-I would love to talk about 70s movies and prior...but it's me and Sam over there....so I am not sure where anyone thinks that everything that is said on here...is only about the 80s. If it is in an 80s topic...then that's what this messageboard is about.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I think the point trying to be made (without starting an argument) is the fact that almost everything being posted modern involves alot of negativity as comparing it to times past as if nothing bad happened or nothing bad was released (movies, music, games)in the past. It's the same thing we say everytime.......
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: It is funny...but I think I post more than anyone else does...on 00's movies...and I post about things going on in today's time period, more than anyone else does-I post more than anyone else about the 70s stuff-I would love to talk about 70s movies and prior...but it's me and Sam over there....so I am not sure where anyone thinks that everything that is said on here...is only about the 80s. If it is in an 80s topic...then that's what this messageboard is about.
If you're saying I don't post anywhere but the 00's you are wrong. I have commented on the 70's messageboard, but got no replies. I post on all of the messageboards. I haven't posted a whole lot lately on the 80's boards because I haven't had a lot of time to watch any 80's movies. However, I do have three that I bought a few weeks ago to watch, probably next week relaxing at home over Thanksgiving. And I don't think any of them has been reviewed, so if it isokay with paul, I would like to possibly review at least one of the movies.
Posted by Kash (Member # 297) on :
Thanks Kevdugp73,
Isis, that's from 'Good Night & Good Luck' its one of my favourite films from the last 5 years, directed by and co-starring George Clooney, the main chracater is boradcast journalsit Ed Murrow played by David Strathairn. Its based on the McCarthy witch hunts in the 1950s.
Welcome to 'The Rewind' Pittsburghgirl.
[ 17. November 2008, 13:25: Message edited by: Kash ]
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Motley-if there is something positive on Tv today...or in music...or at the movies...I honestly wish someone would bring it up. You know what I watched last night...besides the documentary on Polygamy. I watched a documentary on obesity. About how many people in our country weigh 500lbs and more, and I saw a woman who died...after gastric by pass surgery because of a heart attack...she had weighed almost 950lbs. Then I watched them cut another man who weighed over 1,000 lbs..out of his house.
It was awful. Stuff like that did not happen 20-30 years ago. We have a horrendous epidemic of obesity going on in our country. 1 in 3 people is over weight. People didn't use to be over weight because they had to work their butts off, there was no fast food, and people couldn't get free money to sit at home. When I see a show like that...I think where do these people get the money to eat like that....when they talk about how much food they eat...I can't even believe it.
I started thinking about that ...and then the polygamy thing, and I was working with my son today on his health...and his health lesson was all about how to prevent suicide, to not self injury yourself, and how to prevent becoming a victim of violence, how to keep from being sexually molested. And, I think all the time...where is this positive influence that I am suppose to be so grateful for living in the now?
Divorce is everywhere. Drugs are everywhere. Sex is everywhere- and there's nothing being geared towards kids that even shows sex as a loving thing between 2 people...they have made it this down and dirty and nasty "deed" that people do.
Last weekend, I was up early...because I had guests here..I was flipping through the TV, at 6am...and MTV's Sweet Sixteen was on...I wanted to smack those parents upside the head, for being so stupid...their daughter was a spoiled rotten brat. It was awful, I watched it for 10 minutes, and was sickened by all the kids there. I was sickened by the way that 16 year old girl was behaving and how she looked. I turned the channel to the Hallmark channel, and an episode of Little House on the Prairie was on, it was the episode where Albert comes in to the picture, and Laura has to show his cow at the fair for him, and she says that he was her brother....I wanted to bawl over that. I just don't see stuff like that happening today.
I keep asking parents I know...what are they getting their kids for Christmas...they get them cell phones. Kids are so anti social as it is, what happened to toys and playing?
I try harder than anybody I know...to plan things for my family to do, that are positive. I constantly work at my relationships with my friends...I can never understand people that say they are too busy for stuff. People that come to my house...ask me all the time...how do I have time to do everything...all the stuff I do in my home...to do my artwork, to spend time with my kid, to do the Bed N Breakfast...I think...what are other people doing all day long. I do alot of stuff...but I still have free time...and I work at life...and making mine exactly the way I want it to be. You will never hear me ever complain about my life. Yeah...my mom might have been sick, but that's just stuff that happens. I never sit around focused on negative things that are personal. So...I am never trying to live in the 80s as if I hate my life now....The only reason I compare stuff with the 80s...is because of how different it really is. And if anyone was in the 80s, and a teenager...then they know what I mean...because younger people...can hear about it...but they don't know anything different. That's the only thing that makes me not go insane over my kid's childhood...is he doesn't know what he has missed out on. Like playing outside with groups of kids at night, and sleeping out in the yard, and all that stuff. It is so different.
I see TV and Music and Movies that are out now...to be so far removed from what it use to be.
But...if there is something going on out there in the world today...that people want to share...that they find to be a positive influence on them...I say...bring it on...I want to hear it.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
People have always been obese, done drugs, and divorced. There's plenty of positive things on television. The key is the news which daily brings the most negative messages to the masses. I think it's up to the individual to find positivity in the world because something that's positive to one person may be negative to another. I consider it positive to live in a country where we have our freedoms, my good health, and a loving family. If you have to have someone tell you something positive going on in modern times, then maybe you aren't looking hard enough. Gas prics are going down as of right now so that's positive. You live in a democracy that's positive. To some, Tony Romo's return to the NFL might be positive lol. Pettyfans Bears lost yesterday so thats negative for her but hey theres always next week plus Robbie Gould did get them on the board. Maybe she has a piece of **** for a washing machine but she can go buy another that's positive . Jimmy Johnson won the NASCAR championship (not positive to me but maybe to someone else). Sams team may be having a good hockey season hey that's positive. I'm going to see Metallica in 6 days that's positive. I'm thankful for my large circle of friends in real life and on here that's positive. I'm thankful I'm living a good, meaningful life where I help others that's positive. It's up to the person to find his/her positivity in life. Alot of it is attitude....
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
Pittsburgh Penguins are currently in 4th place in the Eastern Confernence, that sounds pretty positive for me! And they will definitely pull themselves back up to 1st or 2nd, they've been playing so well. That's a positive for me. Maybe i should have put this in the hockey thread. And I am feeling better after being sick for 4 days, talk about ruining my weekend. But I'm going out tomorrow with my mother-in-law who is in good health, as is the rest of my family. Whoo, hoo! Then I'm going Christmas shopping on Wed. with one friend to a close-by small town that has all kinds of nice shops; then this weekend I have a friend coming from out of town to visit. We're going shopping and going out to eat, which I rarely do. So that will be a treat, not cooking. I just pray that wherever we go, we get decent service. The last few times I've gone out to eat, we've had total rejects for our servers.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Oh...if I list the stuff in my own life that are positive...I'd go on all night. My own life...is no reflection on what I see going on with other people...I don't do drugs-I have never smoked 1 cigarette in my life, I have had about 5 alcoholic drinks in my life...I do tons of things that are positive. It's the stuff on TV, and on the radio...my mom says it all the time...she says...where is there any music for her...where do you hear songs today..that people are singing "love" songs. When do you hear a person sing about that?
This past weekend I had a wedding couple here...they told me they wanted to play their favorite song at their reception...which I never heard it ever...they said it was called "Crazy B*TCH"...they said because of the lyrics the DJ would not play it...because of kids being there and older people. I thought...GOOD. I mean, if people like that kind of stuff...whatever...but just the title alone sounds horrendous. I can't imagine singing along to a song called that.
People on here are probably going to say...I love that song...that's my favorite song...but that's just 1 example of what I mean.
I get excited over little things all the time...I had an 85 year old lady bring a pumpkin to my pumpkin carving contest, she never carved a pumpkin in her whole life, she has leukemia...and she loved doing that. I hugged her and so did my husband and we told her how glad we were that she took the time to do that. My friend...who is 92 years old came to the Halloween party...with his 2 daughters...they made an awesome pumpkin-they won 2nd prize-which I gave them $50-they loved that, and they were all dressed in costumes...I felt so good, because I know they don't have many Halloweens left with their Dad. I just love him, he's like a grandpa to me. His daughters both live really far away-in other states...so he's here alot by himself, so I always invite him here with us for Holidays...and his daughters both grabbed me and hugged me, and said...you don't know how grateful we are that Dad has you and your family, and that you look after him. It made me cry. Because when your 92 years old...your days are numbered, and even though you had a great life...he's still someone's Dad and they are going to be sad when he dies, but at least I feel like I did something that they will always remember that fun thing they did with him when they came for Halloween.
But....I am not ever talking about my own life.
I see people EVERY day that are just miserable. Sometimes it doesn't matter if your the most positive person on the planet- being around miserable people will suck the life right out of you.
I have gone in to stores, and people are so mean...and I still am polite to them...but I get sick of it.
When I think about the 80s...yes there was negative stuff happening then too...lots of it...I never said it was perfect...but in general the things that were bad...were not in my face all the time...at least it didn't feel like that.
My mom and I reminisce all the time about stuff.
She always asks me if I could go back in time what would I do all over again, and I always just think about...just being with my family again...in the house I grew up in, with my dog, and my old bedroom. Just to be a kid again, and stand on the swings at the school and play on the playground and walk to my friends on a Friday night with my sleeping bag, and walk downtown in my hometown when it was all decorated for Christmas and the store fronts were all really pretty. I know that things change and time goes on, but I miss my Dad and my brother and my Aunt and my Grandparents...and it doesn't matter how positive I am about my life and my family and friends that I have now...which I am grateful for....I miss those other people.
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Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
Hmmmm. I really don't remember my parents complaining that there aren't any good singers like Nat King Cole or Andy Williams anymore. They have learned to move on from the 50's and 60's and just be content to listen to their old albums. And my father is pretty open minded when it comes to more modern music, but he is just the type of person who gets along with everyone too.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Ok....what was the last CD that your parents went out and bought?
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
But what if someone else was offended because the couple wanted a song off the Breakin soundtrack played? Would it be ok then? Some people may find the language offensive, but offense to others may be something else within a song. It's their wedding I say go all out play whatever you want. If they have true friends, I doubt a measly song choice would keep peeps away from the wedding. You must live in an awfully negative part of PA. People I know who live in PA never tell me of always meeting negative people. The last album my dad bought was Death Magnetic. He is actually going with us (he's 55) to the Metallica show Sunday which is kick azz to me. He took me to see KISS when I was a kid. We've gone to see Metallica everytime they've came around since the mid 90s. My mom likes alot of older stuff but she tends to lean towards country/popular/rock/tear jearking music (i.e., Brooks and Dunn, Big and Rich, ugh lol). The last cd she bought was David Cook (bigger ugh) by David Cook......
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Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
Motley my friend I am so offended...David Cook "ugh?" Never!! ROFLMAO!!! I think it's so cool your dad bought Death Magnetic. My mom bought a Kellie Pickler CD, and my daddy loves Jewel (ugh, ugh, ugh)...so older parents do go out and buy music. And there's Sirius/XM channel 4 (forties' music) for those who want it...
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Kellie Pickler is from NC lol gaaaaaaaaaawh leeeeee and so is that Daughtry dude and that Bucky guy. You can say Daughtry around these parts and half the women in the room faint. I meant no harm by the David Cook comment as to each his/her own haha.....
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
Motley....I must admit that I like Daughtry. THE MUSIC that is! LOL
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
My dad probably hasn't bought anything new in 20 years. So what? That doesn't mean that he's moping around the house, complaining about those darn kids down the block pestering him playing hockey on our street, or how the kids today are nothing like they were 50 years ago, etc. etc. He did go see my friend's band play a few years ago- they play mostly classic rock, but also throw in a newer tune when they have time to learn one. Like I said, he's content to listen to his old albums,cds, cassettes and 8-tracks. Oh, I lied,ha,ha- he did buy a cd of some Irish woman's music, but I can't think of her name at the moment.
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: Kellie Pickler is from NC lol gaaaaaaaaaawh leeeeee and so is that Daughtry dude and that Bucky guy. You can say Daughtry around these parts and half the women in the room faint. I meant no harm by the David Cook comment as to each his/her own haha.....
Yeah, I know ya didn't. I think I like Daughtry and my future hubby David Cook because they're not so "poppy." Lord I hate pop music...that Rhianna chick, Britney, Christina, ugh...I shudder.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
We all listen to music now...but none of it is new stuff. I play music every day. It's not that I don't listen to music....I haven't bought a current CD in over 10 years...of anyone new. I still buy music though.
If there was a kid playing hockey in the streets of where we live...I'd be excited to see it...kids don't do ANYTHING around here...it is pathetic...and I am not kidding. I do live in a rural area...and it has taken me 6 years to get a good group of friends, and they are all from out of town, the local people do not want "outsiders", it is very "Children of the Corn"ish.
Motley-if a song has the word B*TCH in it...and there's little children there, and they played that...that would be rude. You got it backwards.
My friend saw Chris Daughtry in concert this past summer, she was in the front row, she was talking to the crew guys, and they said Chris Daughtry was a complete jerk...he said at all the concerts they put out food for all the artists, and most of them let the crew people eat with them...he said Chris Daughtry insisted him and his band eat before anyone else, he said he'd let them know when they could eat, by the time they got around to letting the crew it...everything was cold. My friend said the concert started an hour late...and there was no reason for it...they just didn't feel like getting out there any faster. My friend thought...what a jerk...didn't Chris Daughtry work at Auto Zone as a Service Manager before he went on American Idol? So, what makes him think he's so fantastic that he can be rude and mean to people.
I absolutely hate new music....on Dancing with the Stars tonight, that girl sang the "Bleeding Love" song, that song is awful...the lyrics are gross, and it is so over played, and that's because there is nothing else.
Name the Top 10 songs of this week?
I don't even know who Rhianna is.
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
I've heard on many occasions that Daughtry is a pompous a$$. Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to him.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
But if it's someone else's wedding and their folks are footing the bill whose to decide? You mention Daughtry as being rude as if that's only a modern thing and it's odd that you just now mention him (a modern artist) as being rude since his name was called out. I've never been to a show where the artist is on time hell I'd think something was wrong if they did come on time. How did your friend know there wan't any reason for it? Could have been technical issues, instrument, tune up, setting, etc......... Lots of assumptions. Maybe if Daughtry had been big in the 80s he wouldn't be rude. Music runs in circles chances are your folks' generation said the same about the music you listened to. The only other options are changing the channel or station.........
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
I couldn't even begin to count the number of times my parents told me to turn down "That Racket" while I was listening to my Kiss and AC/DC records. They did like when I played Journey though.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
She knew because the crew guy told her...people were yelling to get him out on stage-they were booing him -they were getting mad. My friend said she only knew 1 song he did...she wasn't impressed by him at all. The crew guy said they were jerks and they just didn't feel like coming out on stage.
Every concert I have ever been to, the concert started on time.
I saw the Starship last February, and the girl that was singing in place of Grace Slick, was sitting beside me at lunch....she was with one of the crew guys...I said hi to her in the hall later on. They had been practicing all day long. If someone is a professional...they take it serious, because it is their JOB. They are getting paid. There is no reason to make people wait around as if the sun rises and sets on them performing.
Anyway...from talking to Glenn Symmonds (Eddie Money's drummer)...he told us that they don't set up their own equiptment...they don't take it down, they don't even have to tune anything...it is all done for them-that's what a stage crew does...the band comes out...and they play...and they leave.
The wedding couple was cool with them not playing their song...they actually played mostly 80s stuff at their wedding...they told me they played "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", and they played "Legs" when she did the garter belt thing...I thought that was really cool. Who said their folks were footing the bill? They both had good jobs......and had been living together for 6 months before they got married. They paid for their own wedding. But, they knew there were older people there and children who would not "appreciate" their favorite song. Which they didn't really seem to care, because I think they have heard it before then. I thought that were a really nice couple...she was 23 and he was 28...they weren't going on a honeymoon, they were saving their money to put a new roof on their house, and they said they liked it here so much that they would be back again, and be sending their parents here for their anniversary.
I talk to so many people ...because of my business, and I ask people all the time about what's going on out there in the real world...incase something's happening that I am unaware of...especially when I do get to be around younger people.
It is funny how many younger people like the 80s stuff.
I have had teenagers here that go nuts over my jukebox...because they love the music I have in it. So, I know that when something was good it stays good.
Metallica is from the 80s...they aren't a current band. Neither is KISS.
I went to see 98 Degrees with my mom- that was at least a newer band-at the time when they were out there touring...my mom loved 98 Degrees. They were actually the first concert I ever went to...in 2001.
My mom went to see Huey Lewis, The Starship and Journey with me.
I am talking who do people over 50....go see in concert now...that aren't someone from the 70s and the 80s.
Who is out there now in the music world, that has had more than 3 hit songs-(from the same artist)...in the top 10...??? Name me 1 group or 1 artist...other than Carrie Underwood. I am talking a current person, not Madonna...not Justin Timberlake.....someone who has started out..since say....2003.
I can think of maybe 1 group...that's the P-ssycat Dolls. I liked 1 song they did, and that was Sway.
Other than them....who's out there?
Miley Cyrus doesn't count....she only appeals to 18 and under.
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Just 1?
Kanye West
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
want another?
Gwen Stefani
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
AKON
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Gwen Stefani has been around longer than 5 years.
Kanye West....gross...
I am talking a person that any age group of people would listen to.
Tell me someone that my mom would actually like...I really can see her loving "Golddigger".
What's a AKON?
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
How do you know that the crew wasn't mad? True Metallica and KISS arent new I never said they were but they have what alot of 80s artists don't: staying power. Why doesn't Myley Cyrus count? I know of kids' mothers who actually listen to her. Gwen Stefani's band No Doubt has been around for more than 5 years but Gwen didn't go solo until 2004. Why do you keep changing the criteria everytime somebody lists an artist? Here's another:
Rihanna (debut in 2005, 5 number one hits since then)
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
You can go to Google and type in AKON and find his chart history and see that he's had quite a few top 10 singles since he started in the pastm 5 years.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Sugarland (formed in 2004, 4 top 10 hits since then)
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Natasha Bedingfield
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Jason Aldean (first album released 2005, 5 tops 10 hits since then)
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Taylor Swift
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Chris Brown
BTW Motley your PM box is full
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Chingy
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Ne-Yo
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
I know adults to who actually like Miley Cyrus...
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I never heard of any of those people.
I did not change my criteria. I said all along name artists that all age groups of people can list to.
I got up this morning ...listening to the 70s again...I am talking music like The Carpenters, Captain and Tennille, KC and the Sunshine Band, Elton John, Billy Joel, Olivia Newton John, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Tina Turner, The Commodores, The Doobie Brothers, The Bee Gees, it was never ending music out there...they had hit song after hit song, and all those artists sang all kinds of variety...from ballads to rock and roll to disco.
These people you named that are recent...sing 1 kind of music...and it does not appeal to all age groups of people. Most of the artists in the 70's...carried through the 80s.
In the 80s my mom listed to Culture Club and Foreigner and Loverboy. There were tons of different people and bands out there that had tons of hit songs.
When the song "Pocket full of Sunshine" by Natasha Bedingfield came out...I actually liked it...for about the first 2 times I heard it...now when I hear it...it gets on my nerves. It is so repetitive. I can't see that song holding up in 5 more years.
Not like how past music has ...there's music from the 70s I could listen to every day and never get sick of.
Posted by Toxic Sammy Hain (Member # 3150) on :
this is what you asked word for word
quote:Who is out there now in the music world, that has had more than 3 hit songs-(from the same artist)...in the top 10...??? Name me 1 group or 1 artist...other than Carrie Underwood. I am talking a current person, not Madonna...not Justin Timberlake.....someone who has started out..since say....2003.
Posted by Mr. Jack Burton (Member # 4673) on :
You guys need to meet and arm wrestle or something... Jeezz..
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
That would be cool....in an arm wrestling match...I am sure I could take both of them. Posted by Mr. Jack Burton (Member # 4673) on :
I'm almost sure ya could M'Lady!! I'd be ref!!
Posted by kevdugp73 (Member # 5978) on :
Here's some of my favorite modern songs....ISIS....I bet you'll like em':
This Year's Love - David Gray Waiting For My Real Life To Begin - Colin Hay Closer To Fine - Indigo Girls Fade Into You - Mazzy Star Bad Timing - Blue Rodeo Seven Day Fool - Jully Black The Grace - Neverending White Lights Fake Plastic Trees - Radiohead Wake Up - Arcade Fire Weak In The Knees - Serena Ryder
Now just tell me you didn't like every single one of those songs...
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
Actually, artists like Akon and Chingy sing one type of music while artists like Taylor Swift and Jason Aldean (wow!) sing another type entirely. Just wanted to clarify.
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
I could care less if a singer/band I like is rude or have an attitude. I like the music. It's like Sean Penn...I don't like him at all, but that didn't stop me from seeing Mystic River and really, really enjoying it.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
But you said in the beginning any modern artist. I'm interested to see how it's gonna be changed later. You never mentioned an artist that sang one kind of music....
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I mean those artists that you guys mentioned...only sing whatever kind of music they sing...they don't sing a broad spectrum of music.
Kevdug-I have never heard of any of those songs...but I have a feeling that I'd more willing to give them a shot since you recommend them, because I like alot of other stuff that you do, so I would try them out.
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Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Still modern artists though.....
Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
Okay Guys, here are the rules... The only good music, movies, clothes, commercials, tv shows, home decor, etc. is from the 80's. Anything else sucks. That's all. Posted by Pittsburghgirl (Member # 7514) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: Carrie Underwood's one song ...the one about "Before He Cheats"....about her smashing in his headlights and ripping his car apart...that is like condoning vandelism...if someone cheats on you..you dump them...who needs that...you don't go commit a felony. That's the kind of junk they sing about today.
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I think it's so cool your dad bought Death Magnetic. My mom bought a Kellie Pickler CD, and my daddy loves Jewel (ugh, ugh, ugh)...so older parents do go out and buy music. And there's Sirius/XM channel 4 (forties' music) for those who want it...
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