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Posted by joker (Member # 3840) on :
 
ok first off i am talk about all for films not just one in pituctler granted karate kid was the best and the next karate kid was the worst first a little about me so you know where i am going with this i took karate lessons becouse of this movie and the cobras where the main reason i did so a couple of years after part one and befor thair was a part 2 i acheved the highest black belt you could get by that time i was starting jinor high school back in the late 80s and early nines i stoped taking karate to start my own band but that is a different story now as for why i am posting this doring the course of all four films but keep in mind i still love this movie series to death over a ten year peried 84-94 thair where a few stupid monets in the whole series now befor i explain i know the nex karate kid should have never made the way it was now for what i mean when i was taking karate the master never asked me or anybody else for that matter to do the floweing wax a car paint a house or go fishing i also know stuff has to be made up for movies/tv but some of this just plain dumb now as far as the next karate kid goes what does bowling baby sitting and nerf football have to do with karate title of the movie is next karate kid not next bowling champion come to think of it doring my karate traing the head master never asked me or any else for that matter to baby sit his kids whitch he had kids go bowling or ply nurf games point i am trying to prove thay could have some the karate traing relistic the only relist karate traing through the whole four films was the cobra kai no wonder chuck norris turned the part he was offered down so what do you guys think of what i had to write
 
Posted by CobraGuy (Member # 3787) on :
 
Actually, the whole wax on, wax off, and sanding the floor thing, etc, etc..isn't really that stupid. The whole point of those "exercises" in the course of the movie was for him to build muscle memory, and for him to become fluid, anc comfortable with the motions that formed the basis of the blocking system. The crap in the other movies is pretty much just that...crap. They were running way low on ideas, I guess.

In a karate class, I never did any of that stuff, of course. But my sensei DID have me stand there practicing blocking and punching drills ad nauseum. Lord knows how many thousands of blocks and punches I threw.

It's all about repetition. You only become proficient at a physical movement by doing it hundreds, or thousands of times. Only then does it become second nature, or instinctive. Those exercises were about repetition, and subconcious absorption of the movements, and more importantly, the breathing. It was intended to be a quick way to familiarize him, physically, with the basics without him even knowing it...and to some extent, to begin to build up his mental strength, and ability to absorb, and work with discomfort.

As far as being realistic...the whole thing is make believe. There's almost nothing in the way of reality in these films at all. The first one was a great film with a lot of heart, that really was inspiring for many people. The films that followed were just attempts to cash-in. Lightning doesn't strike twice, and the surest proof of that is the way that the first KK stands so far above the sequels.
 
Posted by McFly (Member # 354) on :
 
CobraGuy has the basis of it. The karate element is not the most believable, but the film really isn't about karate. It's about these two guys, one learning wisdom *through* karate, the other gaining a son he never had. Their relationship is the core of all the films. The karate is actually the antagonist. Without it from the Cobras, Daniel and Miyagi probly would've bumped along in a pretty stale friendship. But through all the adversity, the kid learns A LOT of lessons about inner strength. As Daniel says in KK II, "You gotta be strong up here, not here". It's the mental approach to life that is sometimes the most important.
 
Posted by joker (Member # 3840) on :
 
i know of know karate school anywhere around the whole world that will make you do the flowing wax a car paint a house go fishing baby sit thair kids play nurf games or go bowling i will give you a example as to what i was saying back in 1993 tom cellic was in a movie called mr baseball do you think the film wood have bin beveliveable if the cariter tom was playing practied football when he was ploaying the part of a baseball player as for as my karate lessons want i too had to kick/punch/block norumes times what i ment was maybe this film searies could have bin done a llittle better i honlesty do not see the conection between baby sitting and karate
 
Posted by CobraGuy (Member # 3787) on :
 
There is no connection between babysitting and karate. However, there is a connection between the physical labor that Daniel did and karate. It's pretty plain and simple...could you get a teenager to stand there and perform 2500 blocks until you told him to stop. NO. The clever literary device to get him to do just that it is to make the blocking movement part of some laborious task, that in and of itself builds character and teaches humility. It isn't just about learning the blocks. It works on a number of levels.

None of my karate instructors ever had anyone babysit. But, they sure as hell ALWAYS enlisted the labor of students who were craftsmen whenever they needed work done to the school. This one guy that I was friends with, Joe...he was a carpenter, and my TKD teacher had him do TONS of work at the school. He supplied him with the materials, but never paid him for his labor. I don't know if that was teaching humility, or just being a cheap f--k. Knowing him, I bet on being cheap. Poor Joe...he was too nice to tell him "No".
 
Posted by joker (Member # 3840) on :
 
first off if i was your friend joe i wood said pay up free karate lessons or no deal this is just being cheep i know of know karate dojo owner that wood poll stuff like that thair was this one time thourg we wrer switching locations to a new bilding the instructer did ask for help on a valintery baises it was not required though he done for the perpus of geting into are new bilding faster is the only reason he did something like that now as for me i was to do a couple of things that related to karate pertisapate in tourments and refree them and when i was just starting out i was even asked to sit in the aduince and absorve what to expect when i started to perticepate in them but never once was i ever ask to something off the wall like wax a car
 
Posted by Y2J 420 (Member # 3856) on :
 
Part II & The Next Karate Kid...
 


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